IS IT TRUE October 20, 2014

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IS IT TRUE we have been informed by reliable sources that plans for a proposed Downtown and Center City Senior Citizens housing projects are quietly being developed by MVG and Evansville Housing Authority with the knowledge and support of the Mayor? …we urge you to read the article in todays CCO for detail information concerning these proposed housing projects?

IS IT TRUE last Friday, President Barack Obama announced that he would be appointing Ron Klain as an additional Ebola Czar?…if Ron Klain sounds familiar to you, it’s because he has a long political pedigree but has no medical, scientific, or federal agency administrative expertise, but he has a whole lot of political experience?…iN January of 2011, Klain stepped down as chief of staff for Vice President Joe Biden and before that, Ron Klain was a well-connected Washington lobbyist?…according to Senate lobbying disclosure records, Klain’s clients included Fannie Mae, U.S. Airways, Time Warner, CIGNA, and Imclone?…Klain also worked as chief of staff for former Vice President Al Gore, Janet Reno, the Senate Democratic Leadership Committee, and the Senate Judiciary Committee?…that’s not all folks, Ron Klain did debate prep for both Obama and former president Bill Clinton and was also general counsel of Al Gore’s election recount committee in 2000?…we find it hard to believe that someone who has spent his entire career as a political operative and a lobbyist (lowest form of life on the Potomac) could have been hired to be the Ebola Czar reporting to any competent director of the Center for Disease Control or even at a small regional hospital?…the fact that President Obama appointed a long-time Democratic operative with zero public health or federal administrative experience tells us everything we need to know about how He views the Ebola panic: Ebola is a political problem for the White House, not a public health problem for the nation?…in spite of this mystifying choice we continue to wish the Ebola team good judgment and sound execution in protecting the American people from this silent killer?

IS IT TRUE if the people who have blind faith in the latest sand flipping date are to see their latest prophesy come true the today is the day that the sand will be flipped for real?…it is exactly two weeks since the amen chorus for the hotel said that the real ground breaking will occur with their reference to a “couple” of weeks?…the Civic Center Moles have said nothing about any permits being issued and the Banker Moles have gone mute on loan approval?…the Bank Moles even tell us that no cash has been beamed over for the Old National Bank to cover the valueless naming rights for the building formerly known as the Centre?…we are watching diligently for any sign of real activity on all fronts and will be keeping our readers informed of any thing we learn about the 5th dimension of ground breaking?

IS IT TRUE  the Chamber of Commerce of Southwest Indiana has announced that six wannabe restaurant owners have entered their $280,000 lottery to be put into business at the old Roger’s Jewelry store at the corner of 4th and Main in downtown Evansville?…the list of ideas mentioned by the Chamber range from normal to silly?…the only thing that seems to be certain is that downtown Evansville with a $127 Million arena, a renamed Centre, and countless other public boondoggles is still not even enough of a business destination to attract a restaurant?…the cost of a restaurant startup is less than a month’s interest payment on the Ford Center yet the Ford Center doesn’t even have the economic impact to inspire a restaurant?…this contest, while loads of fun for the martini sippers is a pathetic admission of defeat for $200 Million of fun and games spending under the guise of economic development?…surely if there really is a new subsidized hotel that would attract a restaurant without a handout?…some things in life are so pitiful they are amusing and this lottery stunt is a prime example?

IS IT TRUE the CCO concurs with the CP that the only sane way to finalize the 2015 budget for the City of Evansville is to allow for any budget cuts involving relatively small amounts of money to the department heads?…to have the City Council or the Mayor attempting to micromanage budget line items that are nearly negligible is utter nonsense if and we do mean if competent department heads that know basic math are in place?…while we understand the simplicity of Councilman Dan McGinn’s suggestion for an across the board cut, that action treats all departments as though they are of equal importance and that they are all equally efficient?…the leadership on big changes like right sizing the Parks Department for a stagnant city of 120,000 people are what the geniuses (we use this term loosely) on the City Council and the Mayor should be doing?…if they can’t even agree on what the most appropriate revenue figure will be, the ability to micromanage line items is futile?…the hotel sand shoveling will not be the only the making us shake our heads in disbelief this week?…whatever emerges from the budget spat should be amusing and abusing as well?

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71 COMMENTS

  1. Nobody hates micromanaging more than I. It makes me want to scream. But in this case, it is imperative. We have a parks dept that has torn down, sold off, and is now trying to close valuable assets while trying to fund a phantom park. It’s time to take the pen out of their hands.

    Putting the budget in the hands of dept heads is in fact putting it in the hands of Winnecke. They work for and answer to him. That’s why we have an across the board mess.

    • I think the primary micromanagement is coming from MIF (Mayor-In-Fact) McClintock when it comes to the insanity of Roberts Park and the Public Pooch Potty Project. The Parks AND their budget need to be aligned with population trends.
      As for the Shotspotter request, I think a lot of the backing for it stems from the potential campaign contributions that could come from its purchase. I’d rather see the money spent on community policing and paying for the overtime that has been accrued.
      I do think BU’s actions have convinced me to vote for Mr. Greer, but he did temporarily rid us of Marsha A, who I expect will appear on the ballot next year.
      The sand-turning is just too embarrassing to even discuss any further.

      • I could not imagine you voting for a republican. I could get a chicken to vote for Col Sanders before you would vote for a republican. I think somewhere along the way you had a run in with Marsha and you lost.

        • You don’t know me, but you either you have a really vivid imagination or else you suffer from delusions. I never had a run-in with Marsha and I have only voted three straight tickets in 46 years of voting.

  2. RE: Editor’s panic on Ebola

    Perhaps now that the Ebola virus appears to be contained sufficiently to avoid…A NATIONWIDE OUTBREAK OF EBOLA IN THE UNITED STATES !!!!…perhaps the Ebola Czar was appointed to manage the more pressing priority in the Ebola crisis — the over the top flames of hysteria being fanned by 24-hour news networks and the Midterm Elections. As 24-hour news networks die for viewers, so of course everything is a crisis. And the Midterm Elections Process, in which it is advantageous to create panic and hysteria for voters when you are challenging the status quo….is the right strategy. The logic being a panicked voter is more malleable than a more level-headed sane voter….and….let’s be honest, the Republican Party is doing everything it can these days to create panic.

    Editor is being a panicked sheep. Has Editor seen a national outbreak of Ebola in the United States? Has Editor not been noticing that quaranteened patients are now slowly but surely being released? Has Editor not been noticing the health professional leadership of the country, CDC included, has been encountering and adapting their reaction to the potential Ebola outbreak nationally and appears to have contained it to 3-5 patients nationally so far? I mean, seriously, the national health team confronting this appears to have encountered early problems, learned, adapted and made procedural and protocol changes to confront the potential problem…….given this has been contained to 3-5 people in the US nationally so far (and even if it grows to 10-15)……..pretty damn well, dontcha think Editor?

    So, seeing the BIG picture, it appears Obama appoints someone more capable at managing the unreasonable ebola panic….the bigger problem…..as THE RIGHT EBOLA HEALTH OFFICIALS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE, and have been all along……..Editor. The measure of leadership isn’t WHETHER you encounter problems, it is WHAT YOU DO once you encounter them. On Ebola…the metrics are showing pretty decent results…so far. Editor, you’re making it look like you can’t count.

    But then Editor has been pushed into the fold of other sheep panicked by CNN, Fox News and political Ads….it appears.

      • That is a really good link, concerning something far deadlier to the people of the US than the current threat Ebola poses in this country.
        I lost a dear, good friend about three years ago because she didn’t have health insurance. She and her husband had done all of the right things all of their lives. They operated a small contracting business, owned their home, and carried private health insurance. When her husband had his first heart attack, he was diagnosed with MS during his recovery from a quadruple bypass. He continued to struggle to try to work for several years, but subsequent heart problems and the advancing MS finally made it impossible for him to continue, and he was approved for SSD and VA Benefits. Of course, their insurance premiums became impossible to pay, and pre-existing conditions weren’t covered. She worked part time, but he required her care, as well. The stress she suffered trying to keep their home and feed them contributed to her health problems, too. To make a long story short, she went to ER with shortness of breath and typical “flu” symptoms, and was sent home with antibiotics and a rescue inhaler for asthma. She was told to “tough it out” and come back in a week if she wasn’t any better. She died four days later. A little over a year later, her husband died in a nursing home, on Medicaid. They could have met the out-of-pocket expenses of ACA, but it wasn’t an option then.

    • The hysteria surrounding ebola does seem exaggerated but in order to contain something so deadly advanced precautions do need to be in place. We even have people locally exposing themselves, wives and children asking for assistance to do so. That is a problem. Stopping or controlling an outbreak before it happens is important. Would you not be a little upset if everyone sat on their hands to wait and see what happens? The medical professionals should be front and center on any decisions regarding disease.

      • “Would you not be a little upset if everyone sat on their hands to wait and see what happens?”

        I have no friggin idea what you are talking about here.

        Do you not know what all is being done to control this outbreak?

        If not, you desperately need to change channels……

        • ha ha. Good one. She/he must be totally out of it and have missed what’s going on with the Two Nurses and the Ebola Patient that died of Ebola, Mr. Duncan.

          see my other post about who’s to blame for these two nurses getting Ebola. This was not the President’s Fault nor was it a fault of the CDC. The hospital that treated Mr. Duncan Screwed up big time and that’s why these two nurses got sick with Ebola. They were not given the proper personal protection equipment (PPE) to keep them safe and were assigned to take care of an extremely sick Ebola Patient who has EXPLOSIVE Vomiting and diarrhea and was getting his Ebola infected body fluids all over the ER and his room. The nurses were not even provided with protective hood or foot gear to keep them from getting exposed to the Virus or tracking it to other patients rooms. Yes the Hospital had them taking care of other patients after they were in the room with Mr. Duncan. That is a no no when it comes to treating infectious diseased patients. Isolation is a must at the time of their treatment.

          And the Nurse who flew to Cleveland on a commercial airline was more concerned about her upcoming wedding that she was about potentially spreading Ebola to others. She should know better as a trained Nurse. They go to nursing school and learn better than that. She made a big mistake not the CDC. She is a professional who know damn well that she was treating an Ebola patient and didn’t have the proper PPE on at the time. She also know that her coworker contracted the Ebola Virus and was sick when she decided to board a commercial flight putting all those other passengers at risk. Hopefully her mistake won’t cause may others to get the Ebola Virus but only time will tell. Those people who flew on that plane with her are still going to have to wait a while longer to make sure that they don’t get sick with Ebola too. Ebola has about a 21 day incubation time period at the max so now we have to wait the full 21 days to makes sure that none of the people who came into contact with the second nurse from Dallas Presbyterian Hospital don’t get sick with Ebola.

          • If the US would have implemented a travel ban from countries in west Africa at the onset of this latest out outbreak of Ebola, as did many other countries, Mr. Duncan wouldn’t have been here at all and the nurses would not have contracted Ebola. And yet there is still no travel ban in place. Go figure.

          • Ellen Woerter,

            Your statement is ignorant. While you may have fun saying a stupid thing, smarter people than you know that….if you do cut off travel to west African countries, the infected people don’t stop their effort….you only motivate those people infected to come through a clandestine route. What happens then?….you lose the ability to test them for Ebola. Keep your problems well in sight….force them underground, and you lose grip totally.

            Tea Party people are happy to be dumb-minded fools. Like Sarah Palin…the mouth is loud, but the mind is foolish.

          • And yet the left (in desperation) is now crowing that Bush the GOP the NRA the yadda, yadda, yadda are responsible for Ebola in the USA !

            A true gift from God is when incompetents are beseeched with poetic justice. Stay tuned, film on November 4th .

      • whatev,

        I think you are failing to see the distinction between “containing the outbreak of ebola” and “hysteria.” Hysteria and panic, instead of tenacious care, will increase odds of a larger outbreak. Ebola is, and should be, being taken deadly seriously by health officials, and they should be tenacious in addressing its containment (and learn from mistakes correctly, and keep moving forward to contain it).

        • I agreed with your media hysteria. I do read what is being done to contain and control the situation. I do not agree with some of the measures we are taking to insure the outbreak does not spread here as American citizens. Meaning us not the US government. We have to use common sense. We have a local family choosing to fly there to start a Christian radio station. Wanna bet these same folks will want to fly right on back if they fall ill? I would like to see a medical professional as a liason between media and government not a career politician. I just think it would help control the media.

        • Clandestine route? Perhaps they could just come through our open southern border, the passageway for many people carrying diseases we’ve long since eradicated but are making a resurgence. The ineptitude of this administration is glaring in its inability to protect our borders, the primary responsibility of the federal government. We should have troops on the borders, not in west Africa.

          • Bush didn’t do any better. Your statement is without good reason or any merit. It’s nothing more than GOP Politics again and again.

          • Ellen, you’re hilarious. You were talking about Ebola, then – cause I guess you realized your comments were ignorant – you switch to immigration. That’s called scatterbrained.

      • ” We even have people locally exposing themselves, wives and children asking for assistance to do so. ”

        What the hell are you babbling about????

          • So, you decided to just hurl a name at me, rather than explaining what may well be the most senseless statement ever made on CCO. That figures!

      • No name calling. Just stating a fact. I have read a long list of hypocritical and venomous post from you. I supported my comment with the links provided. Or are you saying my pointing out your vicious hypocrisy is senseless? If so I will point to all the post you insult politicians one week, want them to run for mayor the next and then back to insulting. You shout change while contribute to forgetting the past. Actually you have been called out for this before by other posters you chose to throw stones at. I will pass on reminding you of other things that were less than honest due to them being personal of nature and I do not bully or slam others that differ from myself. At least not until invited to explain like you did. Others see it and choose to ignore it like I normally would. I do not care if you are the CCO queen. This site would have more comments if people were aloud to have a difference of opinion. Hypocrite seems fitting considering this
        site was designed and grew from differing opinions.

        • Do you have any idea how creepy what you said about keeping a list of my posts sounds? But please, give me some of the quotes where I insult someone one week and ask them to run for mayor the next.

    • RE: Shem,s attack on editor.
      Or—- perhaps Janet Reno’s former chief of staff was named Ebola Czar to try and convince thinking, commonsense Americans that it was better to bring Ebola to America than to try and isolate and treat it at it’s former locations.
      He also could let us know how much of the miracle cure made right here in Owensboro Kentucky the government has ordered.

      • I heard there was a company in Connecticut that would have had a cure for Ebola if it weren’t for supposedly a 44% budget cut to the NIH but I never knew Owensboro had a company with the vaccine.

        As Francis Collins, head of the NIH, said last week: ‘NIH has been working on Ebola vaccines since 2001. It’s not like we suddenly woke up and thought, “Oh my gosh, we should have something ready here.” Frankly, if we had not gone through our 10-year slide in research support, we probably would have had a vaccine in time for this that would’ve gone through clinical trials and would have been ready.’

        Ebola has been around since 1976 and it’s definitely time for it to be eradicated.

        Owensboro, Kentucky – What a fantastic little city…..

          • V. You disappoint. As you are a man of many videos I fully expected you to provide at least one example of American citizens exhibiting fear and hysteria as Obama charged.
            I noticed Obama said the experts say we must stop it at it’s source before it spreads. What better way to prevent it from spreading from those countries than to not allow travel from those countries.

          • commonsense
            Oct 20, 2014 at 9:13 am

            RE: Shem,s attack on editor.
            Or—- perhaps Janet Reno’s former chief of staff was named Ebola Czar to try and convince thinking, commonsense Americans that it was better to bring Ebola to America than to try and isolate and treat it at it’s former locations.
            He also could let us know how much of the miracle cure made right here in Owensboro Kentucky the government has ordered.

            This bull looks like panic, and here’s your commonsense video.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxNoRdxfuGw

        • Regulator-Unfortunately, it’s not a vaccine. It’s a medicine to treat patients who already have the disease. It was used on the American doctor who was dying in Liberia.He was given the drug in Liberia. He made what those attending him called a miraculous recovery. Incidentally, it’s made using tobacco plants.
          As to budget cuts preventing Ebola research, hogwash. There probably were no actual $ cuts. If there were it’s a matter of priority.

          • Probably? Get your facts straight before you call hogwash. There were many budget cuts to the CDC with this current GOP controlled House of Representatives.

          • Your own chart shows there have been budget cuts the last couple years but certainly not as drastic as the 44% I heard over the weekend, that’s why I said supposedly. Looks like a 5% cut because of sequestration which amounted to 730 less patients they could see last year was what pissed the guy off.

            In the mean time, you may want to stick to preaching and stay out of politics if you believe this is a political Hail-Mary for Obama. Your political savvy almost makes Spangler look like a guru….

          • Now, now Regulator. Be nice. Republicans caved on sequestration long ago. You or I or I.E. could find millions of dollars of waste in this agency to spend on Ebola fighting.
            BTW- the drug ZMapp referred to in the article is the one made in Owensboro.

          • Yes, I looked to it up and read all about it when you brought it up this morning. Seems odd an American tobacco company involved in saving lives instead of taking them but bring it on! Good info commonsense, thanks.

            enoch still needs to stay out of politics and stick to what he knows best,

            joining gay people in holy matrimony…..

        • 3 ex mother in laws. So you’ve had quite an experience with failed marriages. Actually multiple failed marriages, 3 or more, is not uncommon for liberals. The reason given by most ex spouses of liberals is that they didn’t feel comfortable in same sex marriages.

      • Ha! Commonsense, I laugh at your insignificance! (Your words are nothing but bombs, illogical and inaccurate, not meant to be a prepared argument)

        • Shem. I’m honored you cannot grasp the meaning of my posts. If you did, i would be
          very concerned.

          • “Where is the panic of which he speaks?” Clearly observed globally daily.

            We’ve concluded , staying the course in the fight to control the “virus” Ebola is a strategically applied medical process. Critical thinking and evolving protocols will contain the disease. Further speculation has no strategic balance, medical procedure and well placed rapid response teams do. So.

    • Well said. The panic is being controlled by the new Political Ebola Czar as the medical community and the CDC have almost solved the problem now. Maybe if Rick Perry, TX Governor GOP, would have had his State Health Department Officials up to date on EBOLA procedures they would not have had two of their TX nurses get sick with Ebola while treating Mr. Duncan. And if the GOP controlled House (holder of the US Government purse strings) had not short funded the CDC and other highly important Federal Health Care type agencies like NIOSH, OSHA, EPA and CDC we would have had the money to better train the health care workers in Dallas Texas.

      Remember that CDC is an ADVISORY Agency not a Regulatory Agency and therefore the people who are fully responsible for the nurses getting sick from Ebola are the Dallas TX Presbyterian Hospital and the State of TX. One is a private not for profit hospital that works at making money and the other is the GOP State Governor and his appointed health officials.

      I figure that by appointing a Political Operative to the Ebola Czar Position that the GOP pushed so hard for and criticized Obama for not appointing a Czar he was just thumbing his nose at the GOP Political operatives who been gripping about anything Obama does or does not do.

      The majority of the people who were in contact with Mr. Duncan with the exception of the two nurse have not contracted the Ebola Virus and have been released from quarantine. That’s the good news now. It’s been over 21 days and well past the incubation period of the Ebola Virus so these people are not going to give Ebola to anyone else.

      I do admit that I was spooked at first but with the end of the 21 day period of time and no further infections I think we can breath a little now. Thank god.

      BTW: Where will the GOP Senators vote to confirm the Surgeon General Appointment? The GOP Senators and the House have been balking at confirming most all of Obama’s appointments. That’s a crying shame. It’s what makes me hate Politics. The President won the election for President of the United States of America two times in a row and yet the GOP fails to support this Presidents Nominations for offices that are vital to the safety and security of the USA.

      We don’t need an Ebola Czar but we do need the GOP to get up off their fat asses and confirm the Presidents appointment for the US Surgeon General Office. They should be doing that instead of bitching and complaining about who Obama appointed to the Ebola Czar’s position.

      • Moveon. Perhaps it’s time you did. The House has absolutely nothing to do with Obama’s cabinet or judicial nominations. That’s the Senate. And Republicans there have nothing to do with them since Harry Reid invoked the “nuclear option.) The Surgeon General nominee is so bad the dems don’t want to have hearings on him lest the public learn of his incompetence.
        The only panic and hysteria about Ebola is being generated by Obama and the Oboma-bots who are screaming about panic and hysteria.

        • No one said anything about the House being in charge of the confirmations. I know that and so does everyone else. I said that the house has cut the Federal Budget way too much.

          Everyone knows that the GOP Senators are not confirming PRESIDENT Obama’s Appointments.

          • At 10:14 Moveon wrote: “the GOP senators and the House have been balking at confirming most of Obama’s appointments.” Was that you?
            I explained how Republicans the minority party can no longer block nominations. Take it up with Harry Reid.
            BTW. Who is the nominee?

          • @commonsense: You’re totally wrong about the Senate Republicans not being able to block the President’s nominees. The “nuclear option” was briefly exercised by Harry Reid pertaining ONLY to federal court judges, because the Circuits were so understaffed. You will find that several Republican senators are proudly blocking the President’s nominee for Surgeon General, whose name currently escapes me. The NRA announced that they would score the vote because the Dr. had said that gun violence is a health issue in this country. Being true to their owners, the GOP blocked the nomination.
            A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, you know.

    • just a suggestion riversham……….sell that ebt card and go up to the hilltop inn and buy a brain sandwich the sandwich has a bigger IQ than you …..going by your comments……….by the way barry obola is a ball lost in high weeds……..or he is destroying America on purpose………open borders wonderful ideal……..20 million illegals that are as dumb as you given citizenship wonderful ideal……….yep the only way barry obolas big government can survive……..ignorance………

        • Hell yes, I can see al sharpie’s obituary now:

          “al sharpie was preceded in death by his brain in 2008.”

          “May Dick Cheney have mercy on his soul……………………”

  3. Where, or where, is the additional reporting on Bruce Ungetheim’s acceptance of political contributions from Winnecke for Mayor, Wayne Parke and others ? How can the CCO not find this newsworthy ???????????

    • Good question. Unfortunately, Editor’s and the CCO”s behavior here makes it look like just as much of a political hack as Wayne Parke.

    • It would be fair of them to supply this, I’m sure C&P has the database on this, if your a subscriber.

      The big picture Marsha Abel will not be a county commissioner much longer. The bad news she will show up somewhere else, in either city, or county government! In the long run, we just rotate these career figureheads!

  4. I will rephrase a remark I posted on the weekend forum.
    Strange bedfellows? Have Winnecke and Parke changed their spots? I hardly think so! Looks like B. U. is “sleeping” with the Devil to me, and for what?–A Cookie and some cash?– Pitiful!
    I will urge my Family, friends and peers to vote, –Greer instead.

    • Flip a coin or attempt to vote the lesser of two evils? Greer is/was a definate problem with budget issues. Should we think he is capable because Winneke was the one to out him? I am not one to support “the machine” as some call the current political leaders but I will not support someone just because they don’t either.

  6. They all have a problem with ‘budget issues’. If it is proposed for funding and doesn’t fit their agenda they are against it. Not that difficult.
    ~~~~
    Ungethiem has served the community by temporarily sidelining Marsha Abell, let him enjoy his retirement now. I was never a big fan of Sherman Greer, not really a lot of emergency managing to do around here, but he gets my vote. Anything he was accused of to justify his firing pales in comparison to the behavior of those who got their long knives out for him.
    ~~~~
    Wonder if the sand turning today requires the suits to be in full uniform: plastic hat, plastic smile, elastic story. What? No sand to be turned today? Say it ain’t so.

    The vanned-in wino bankers are ready to nod in agreement, to what they do not know. They just want their bottles, out of the ill fitting suits and free passage back down the street to the crib.
    ~~~~
    It matters not one whit who Obama picked to coordinate dealing with Ebola. That person would have come under politcally motivated fire no matter who it was. Klain was a decent choice, someone who knows his way around the bureaucracies. The shameful way the president has been treated by the unloyal opposition will be fodder for many future political science courses. America is worse off for the Republican’s stiff-necked intransigence.

  7. Whatever,–I am biased when it comes to Winnecke and Parke , no doubt about that, I have nothing but contempt for them both, and had pinned my hope for a “New” day in Evansville’s Politics with the defeat of Marsha A. With the roll-over of Bruce U. , my only choice now is to back Greer–to send a message to Mr. U. about his “New friends”, and my disappointment that nothing ever changes in the “Good Ol’ Boy” network that “Runs” Evansville. Sad.

  8. “Anything he was accused of to justify his firing pales in comparison to the behavior of those who got their knives out for him.”

    “They all have a problem with budget issues’. If it is proposed for funding and doesn’t fit their agenda they are against it. Not that difficult.”

    “ not really a lot of emergency managing to do around here,”

    The favored overtime is not an accusation. It was paid. You said yourself there is no need for it. Not that difficult. Too bad nobody with the people’s best interest is on the ballot.

    The overtime is not an accusation. It was paid.

    • Even in context, your sentence was not clear. I still can’t tell if you’re praising or criticizing these people, but I’m leery of such funding requests. The plans to go are for off in the future, after they learn a language, etc.. It seems someone with a genuine calling would be selling off their possessions and have legitimate church sponsorships, instead of asking for money today for something in the future at an un-named date.

  11. I find it funny when Democrat supporters that don’t blink an eye at the money rolling into local races for Dems claim Mr. U, a Republican, accepting donations from other Repubs will now force them to vote for the Democrat they were going to vote for anyway.

    • ….still DISAFFECTED…you have to acknowledge Ungetheim and Wayne Parke look opportunistic, without principles and shallow in the pursuit of their own self-interest. Maybe that’s still ok with you…..and you may still agree with their “taking the money” over dignity…but such a position simply means you aren’t interested in “a new way of doing things.” It would make you happy to continue as part of the corrupt clan-oriented system. Ungetheim’s taking the money simply reinforces he is not interested in the actual change he campaigned on. It hurts his credibility and his authenticity.

      • I don’t see that Mr. Ungetheim has compromised any of his principles in accepting contributions from leaders of his party. I never heard him declare that he would refuse such donations–and he shouldn’t: If the contributions improve his chance of winning the election to better serve his constituents, then his conduct in office will tell us how well he represents our needs and concerns. If he does it well, then he will be re-elected, regardless of whether past donors will continue to support him. If he doesn’t, then it’s up to us–the voting public–to elect his replacement. I look forward to observing how Mr. Ungetheim performs in office.

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