IS IT TRUE January 14, 2015

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IS IT TRUE Evansville at-large just learned what others have known for years about the toxic waste problems of the former Miller Plating facility?…it has been about 6 or 7 years since the business was shuttered because of profitability issues?…shortly after thieves were in the place stealing the massive copper anodes associated with the electroplating process and anything else of value that could be found?…we wonder where they fenced these large copper items because they look unique enough for any recycling house to have identified them when they were cashed out for $3 a pound or so?…the carte blanch acceptance of all items by recycling houses across the country has served the community of thieves who pounce on empty buildings for copper like vultures feast on a dead animal well?…the taxpayers have already spent $1.4 Million to clean pollution from this site, yet the former owners who abandoned the business have “moved on”?…there is something about that which just isn’t right, but it is certainly within the laws of the land so the former owners will have no further consequences?…this is not the first or the last time that Evansville has had to deal with zombie corporations toxic waste?…if any of you do not like this the best course of action is to contact your lawmakers, because this situation is simply the wages of having poor public policy in place?

IS IT TRUE it seems as thought the Evansville Department of Metropolitan Development is fighting like the dickens to find some taxpayer funded organization to squander $3 Million or more to restore the Owen-Block Building to its former glory?…that assumes there was ever any glory to begin with?…the CCO thinks this exercise to be just another example of this administration’s willingness to get distracted by “pretty things” like this building could be, when there is a freeze on maintaining police cars?…putting any money, even if it is not our money, into a building that will be worth less than a million dollars after spending $3 Million is simply stupid for a government to do?…there is very little if any collective good that will come from this fool’s errand?…on the other hand, if some purist with deep pockets wants to waste their own money for altruistic purposes, that is their business?…there should be no more tax money except for the $85,000 to demolish this melting pile of bricks that would make a very good logo for how Evansville has been run for 60 years?

IS IT TRUE conventional wisdom is being challenged by one of the so-called architects of ObamaCare?…Dr. Ezekiel Emmanuel (Rahm’s brother), wrote an opinion column in the New York Times advocating for people to do their patriotic duty to avoid wasting the time of doctors, by avoiding the ritual of getting an annual physical?…the annual physical was mandated by ObamaCare with no co-payment allowed so Dr. Emmanuel’s position is just the opposite of what the bill itself says, but this writer thinks that Dr. Emmanuel may have this one right?…the data that was presented over a 10 year period of those who dutifully had annual physicals simply out of habit vs. those who didn’t supports the conclusion that the annual physical does not do much of anything to prevent diseases in otherwise healthy people?…this is a rather innovative way to save money and this writer will be interested in seeing if other studies can reach the same conclusion?…we all really know that the “recommended” maintenance by auto repair places is not always needed by anyone but the recommending mechanic who just wants money?…it is not a stretch to apply the same pragmatic thought process to doctors and patients?

IS IT TRUE we shall make an announcement on Thursday concerning a subscription charge for City County Observer in 2015? …we also shall be announcing additional adjustments in the future direction of the CCO for 2015?

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81 COMMENTS

  1. Re: first paragraph. Ain’t deregulation great?

    I will not pay a subcription fee.

    • This will really hurt readership if a fee is charged. What happened to freedom of the press for the citizens, or does that only cover the owners of these media outlets. I just think advertising dollars should be enough to operate an internet publication. I don’t know what it costs to operate, so I might be wrong. I would encourage the owners to think about this carefully, you have a good thing going.

  2. Is it true that Miller’s is just the tip of the iceberg? The CCO should check into the permitting process for these factories. Who’s inspecting these facilities and are they educated enough to actually know what these factories are doing with their waste. Air permits are required and I would assume that there is some type of permit to discharge water wastes into the city’s sewers. We need mechanical or chemical engineers to help control the city agencies that over see these factories. The City want’s to fight like the Dicken’s to keep USEPA out of here unless the USEPA is coming in to clean up the hazardous waste or giving money to the Area’s Brown Field Coordinator.

    These business owners come to town and setup a business then start to dump their waste into the sewers or directly into Pigeon Creek.

    Evansville Plating works along the old division street not too far from downtown Evansville, IN did the very same thing that Miller Electro Plating did. They were the same kind of business. Both used Cyanide and acids to electro plate metals and other materials. Both left hazardous waste in their property and walked away from these toxic waste products. Both had the federal Government ( tax Payers) to foot the bill for cleaning up the waste.

    Perhaps these companies should be bonded up front in order to ensure that money is there to clean up these toxic waste before any construction or operating permit is given.

    And where is the city or Local but separate EPA? Do they have any responsibility for issuing operating permits to Miller Electro Plating or Evansville Plating Works? Who’s responsible for overseeing hazardous liquid waste in this town? Is it the Donna Bergman or the new director of the City EPA. Is it the County Health Department. Is it the Sewer Department? Maybe this is the reason why these businesses are so uncontrolled and unregulated or supervised. Maybe they are allowed to do almost what ever they want to do until a fire breaks out or they do something Big that’s noticed by lots of people and the news media. Then it’s a one day event in the local news and after the heat dies down it’s back to business as usual.

    • Donna Bergman has been at or in charge of the local EPA for unless I am mistaken at least two decades. This was on her watch.

      • She took over the helm in 2000, and was replaced during Weinzapfel’s administration, I believe.

    • Great observation & I’d like to add a regional concern: What happens whenever AK Steel decides that “enough is enough” & folds their collective tent to slide down the sand dunes toward the next oasis while leaving the mess from their “Pickle Line” in their wake? They’re upstream from us, y’know & they DO discharge into the Ohio…

      I spent roughly 4 years of “quality time” as an electrician there. While there were never many “good days”, all it took was a look at the stack while passing through the gate to know if the day would be tolerable or not (puffy, white steam = “OK”, school bus yellow / orange = “Ah, sh-t, why didn’t I call in?”)…

  3. I want the CCO to survive.
    I would consider a reasonable fee for content, but, I wouldn’t assign any money value to the comments section, My two cents worth is just that , worth 2 cents or less,–and I know it..–Crash

    • CCO and Evansville Transparency are the only sources of truth available about what is happening in Evansville.

  4. The last time I took some metal to the recycling center they asked me where I got it and what it was. It was a 50 year old metal cloth line pole that had rusted off at the ground level and fallen over. But the point is that they do ask what you brought in and where you got it and I guess they document that in the office. But unless the guy in the office doing the paying and paper work actually see the metal they have no idea what you actually brought into them to sell. They have to depend on the guy’s in the shop telling them what was brought in that day. They did take a picture and check my ID at the time of payment for the metal but that’s done inside the office. Unless the guys in the office can see what’s being brought into the business they won’t know exactly what they are paying you for. I do think that at this particular place of business one drives over a scales on the way in and on the way out which is right by the office windows. So I guess they can see what’s inside the truck if it’s an open truck.

    So I would suspect that if someone brought in a pickup truck loaded with any type of scrape metal they would have a good look at the material before they buy it from you.

    • I had $20,000 (replacement cost) of copper stolen from me by a scrap maggot. Sherri told me they had just busted a guy who was selling $10,000 a month. It’s big business.

      • I hearken back to “the good old days” when copper thieves were busted in an ambulance on the way to the hospital after cutting energized high-voltage mine cables with a chainsaw. Now THAT’S comedy!!! What, pray tell, were they thinking???

        • I will say that their interest in copper wanes when there is a possible presence of led.

        • Or the “good old days” when at one of the strip mines a couple guys cut into the cable with an ax and, when healed, sued the company for having any unmarked safety hazard present.

  5. Miller Plating VS Owens Building………is it too late to hold the owners of the Owens building accountable for demo? Why will the city have to pay the 85 mil?

    • It’s $85,000, Fred, not million. The city will then own the property, so they can give it to a developer to build on. I’m sure if the Poop’s people can find a few million spare federal dollars laying around, they’ll then give the land and financing to a donor–er, “developer”– to build something that will successfully revitalize downtown. At least, that will be their story.

  6. The preservation of the Miller-Block building has value only as an example of the architecture of multi-unit dwellings of the day. I don’t know of any real “history” associated with that building. I think it is a great thing if somebody with deep pockets and a love of historic preservation comes along and saves it at “0” cost to the taxpayers. That is “0” as in not one dime of money from ANY governmental source.
    CCO makes a good point about the seeming Attention Deficit Disorder of the current administration. Something “fun” and “pretty” always seems to take the Winnecke administration’s eyes off the prize. By “the prize” I mean a fiscally solvent city that delivers basic services and a safe, clean environment to its residents. Admittedly, the “prize” is meeting just the most minimal expectations of the taxpayers, but Winnecke and friends aren’t yet meeting minimum performance levels.

    • Hummn. Sounds like you are talking about the Evansville Courier and Press since they started charging a subscription to read their stories. yet they still have a few stories that can be read without a subscription to avoid losing too many customers ( IE viewers of their ads). They count clicks you know. But a click is not a buying customer in any way shape or forum. There in lies the rub. Are the ECP advertizers actually getting their money’s worth? I sort of doubt that they are. And anyone can see that the number of comments in the Online Stories at the C&P is way down.

    • I’m with you on that. I will, however, offer a reasonably-priced, tiered subscription plan in order for all to continue to enjoy the benefits of my rapier wit & matinee-idol profile (top-tier only, sorry!) as well as my own unique insight into nothing substantial. “How do we do it?”, you might ask. Well, I haven’t figured that one out yet but I’ll be in touch… Also, did I mention my free neutered cat giveaway? Stay tuned!

      Seriously, CCO: Really? Is this a bandwagon thing (think “ECP”) or are your ads just not making ends meet? I’m not an Evansville resident but Evansville has a ripple effect into the Tri-State at large. I find this site to be most useful in its content & the comments even more so in gauging the pulse(s) of everyday folks such as myself, as well as being sometimes insightful & always entertaining. I appreciate the CCO & the content but am curious regarding your “announcement”… My best to all!!!

  9. I would pay a subscription fee for the cco, but I declined paying an indulgence return to the CP.

    • “For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs. So too should you pay your indulgences.”

      Editor

  10. pay per view will kill the CCO, political season is here,, there should be candidates knocking your doors down for ad space.

  11. ObamaCare condensed to 4 sentences..

    As humorous as this sounds…..every last word of it is absolutely TRUE!

    1. In order to insure the uninsured, we first have to uninsure the insured.

    2. Next, we require the newly uninsured to be re-insured.

    3. To re-insure the newly uninsured, they are required to pay extra charges to be re-insured.

    4. The extra charges are required so that the original insured, who became uninsured, and then became re-insured, can pay enough extra so that the original uninsured can be insured, which will be free of charge to them.

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is called “redistribution of
    wealth” …

    • You are right OnecountryBoy!!

      1. I never had to pay for doctors visits, broken fingers, a plugged eye or puking when I was sick. Never!

      2. I just went to the emergency room! The hospital pays for it! They just write that off!

      3. I never had to buy health insurance or nothing. Why would you waste money like that? Every year of the last few decades, people paying their health insurance went up like 20 percent a year, and every time they did go to the doctor or the hospital, the bill was like 20 percent higher. Are they crazy? How in the hell do they do that and live? I’ll tell you how! Just go the emergency room! They were all idiots! You don’t have to pay! They just write that stuff off!

      4. And all those people who whine and and complain cause their job quit paying the premiums for their health insurance? Or the people whining cause they don’t have enough money to pay for health insurance cause it just got too high? They are idiots! Just go to the emergency room! Say you don’t have money to pay, and it is free! They just write that stuff off!

      5. Me and OneCountryBoy, yep, we got this. We just think those dumb bastards before Obummacare watching their health insurance premiums and their doctors and hospital bills go up 20 percent every year, they ruined it! They just had to go to the emergency room, say you can’t pay, and it is free! They just write that stuff off!!

      I used to be able to save my money to buy guns, more tomatoes to make mater-wine. But that dumb bastard Obummer, he ruined that crap.

      • 1CountryBoy,

        Wait a minute. I was all excited and all about describing me and 1CountryBoy’s perfect system under the old healthcare system, and how it was free and all, and I was like, reading it out loud to my sister feeding the baby in the other room! And she said,

        “You know, that old system of you and 1CountryBoy, the hospital and the emergency room, and the doctors, they didn’t just write that off and then do nothing!!”

        “Every year, the hospital and the doctors increased everybody else who did have insurance, they raised their rates by 20% every year, and the insurance companies raised their insurance rates 20% every year too to pay the health bills of people who didn’t have insurance.”

        “It was how the system you and 1CountryBoy liked, it was how that worked. It redistributed the costs of the health care to other wealthier people. That is what happened when they wrote that off!!”

        WFT!!

        1CountryBoy! You are a dumb bastard! You didn’t tell me that was the wealth redistribution plan? Just have everyone else pay a 20% increase every year? WFT!!

        I didn’t know the costs of my emergency room bills were being redistributed to everyone else, and that is why everyone’s doctor, hospital and insurance bills went up by 20% every year!

        Well, my sister is warning me now that you’re gonna start calling her a dumb-ass liberal cause you look like an idiot now. She’s says, she says “He’s gonna say we’re both liberals! and that we’re both spewing a bunch of liberal crap!”

        Wait. Now she’s saying “1CountryBoy ain’t gonna disagree with what I said though, cause he can’t. He’s just gonna call me names.”

      • damns sinces obamacares i gets frees insurances and frees births controls and free e rooms visits now alongs withs foods stamps housing allowances dams yous middle classes sure r dumb……..

        • You can also put in for your earned income tax credit and get up a $6000.00 refund check even though you didn’t pay in or even work. The ones doing their early are usually the ones getting that free refund.

  12. Holy Wall of Text, Batman!

    If you’re going to start charging a fee for content, you need to train the writers of the site to properly use WordPress. There’s been way too many times to count where a post was horrendously formatted and/or displayed wrong. You can’t blame the “hacking” on these instances. Proofreading as well as having an extra set of eyes look over a post before you click that Publish button would go a long way. There’s a reason you can save a post as a draft in WordPress, maybe your writers should take advantage of this feature more often. Also, don’t get me started on your lack of attribution on your images and other content that you aggregate for the website. The famous/infamous “Mole” image, did you create that? Did you swipe that from Google Images?
    For a website that likes to publicize the shady/snegal practices of Evansville/Vanderburgh County, it looks like you also take part in shady publication practices just going by how the website looks. I’m not saying that you are willfully choosing to not correctly attribute content/image sources, however, do your writers know that they should correctly attribute sources?

    tl;dr
    If you’re going to start charging like a big boy website, you need to start functioning like a big boy website

    • The mole is an original drawing done for the CCO by the same Evansville cartoonist who does our cartoons. It is bought, paid for, and owned by the CCO.

      • Wonderful, I did not know that. What about the other images that are used on the website? Where did acquire those images from? For example, the image used in the Theft Ring story:

        https://city-countyobserver.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Theft2.jpg

        Did you take this picture yourself? Did someone from your editorial staff take this picture? Was this picture provided by local law enforcement?

        Same goes for this story: “Governor Pence’s 2015 State of the State Address Tomorrow.” You used a picture of the Indiana seal:

        https://city-countyobserver.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/category_29_DefaultImage.gif

        Did your graphic designer create this image? Did you get this from a government website? Did you get this from stock image website?

        I’m not trying create an argument over best-practices for websites, however, I do feel that correct attribution practices should be followed by your editorial staff.

  13. I’m pretty sure that last year about this time, CCO made a similar announcement. The crux of it was that it would remain free. I don’t know if that will be the case with this year’s announcement or not, but it may just be a reminder of the fact that the C&P charges and CCO doesn’t. I’ll just wait to see what the announcement is before I get the undies in a knot.

      • We’ve seen that as well ,and hope they can gain a more solid advertising foundation. Looking back, some advertising features were pulled or taken of the rack when someone open some blinds and let a little sunshine warm things up a little. So far solar illumination is brought to you by cosmic thermodynamic chaos. Chaos and thermodynamic warming in advertising always doesn’t work that way.
        “Everybody knows that”. Well did you know? Good mini blinds can save you up to 9% on your energy bills? Buy some two tone by exposure sided blinds (“active balancing”) reflective on one side and dark on the other.

        “In the winter turn the dark side to the sunshine and angled that to allow sunshine in. Warms the inside space and the window space air layer between the glass and the blind” saves almost 3% on the average heating bill. (Still provides illumination though.)
        In the summer cooling bill months turn the reflective side to the sunshine and angled up to prevent conditioned space radiant warming to room surfaces, reflects the heat back out the window, however, still provides illumination inside the room. Saves around 6% on the average cooling bill. Conditionally the number of windows per solar illumination changes the end point values some up and down.
        Both sides also provide ones inner realm to see the world outside the room of influence while providing illumination when the sunshine’s .

        Kind of like advertising, however when the sun goes down just be smart, close them that normally keeps the darkness outside, and your produced illumination in. 🙂

    • The CCO didn’t make any announcement to start charging. Someone else ( a reader) did that. And they probably did that to change the subject so that no one would keep talking about the Miller Electroplating Company scandal. Why are businessmen like them allowed to get by with leaving ton’s of hazardous waste lying around for children to play in.

      • You’re an idiot. “IS IT TRUE we shall make an announcement on Thursday concerning a subscription charge for City County Observer in 2015?” It literally says charge.

        • Actually I didn’t see that last IST paragraph. And BTW you always have been an IDIOT. What’s your excuse?

          • And BTW I’ll not pay a subscription for any blog on the internet. Never have and never will.

        • The announcement concerning a subscription charge is that there will be no subscription charge, you lovely genius!

    • Can we stipulate? The CCO isn’t a substitute for the Courier & Press. Never has been, and it’s not even a legitimate consideration. Primary news comes from the C&P. The CCO reacts to the C&P….The City-County Observer is a red-headed stepchild to the Courier & Press.

      The CCO Publisher is finding, and ADVERTISERS are finding:

      The # of page views* so highly touted by Editor are coming from about 10-20 people. That is a very small constituency to build a subscription model on…and LKB, I think that reinforces that you are correct that this is a trial-balloon simply to reinforce the distinction things are free here for the 10-20, the majority of the users, using the site.

      (*Yesterday, January 13, 2015, the IS IT TRUE had 1515 or so views. About 75 percent of those are from that 10-20 people checking back in to see “comment” updates from their 10-20 associates.)

      • I’m not sure what the Publisher is going to do. There is still potential here, but Editor can’t seem to be loyal to objective analysis, and as a result, instead of a “bridge-keeper” he is a vandal who burns the bridge if it suits his needs.

        Last year’s CCO unabashed swing support of Ungetheim, done NOT because he was a proper candidate, but solely because his opponents pulled some advertising from the CCO, reinforced all of this. The CCO stirs the pot w/out consideration of public policy advocacy or objective analysis, it does it to create a fear among politicians “that they better advertise here, or we’ll come after you.” That won’t work in the long run, you burn your bridges. And it loses the respect of all of your constituencies, including the Advertisers. The Publisher isn’t sure what to do. He’s floating trial balloons to help him figure out where the future of the CCO is going.

      • Not so. Primary news actually does come from the CCO and the C&P follows the CCO on many news events. The CCO reports on things that the C&P refused to report on.

        The CCO is as relevant as the C&P. If the C&P was so good then why did scripts sell it?

    • LKB
      You already said you would pay to have the rights to piss in your Wheaties each morning then add all your negative comments to the CCO website, unless it is about Run To Illinois Gail…

      • ???? First, I don’t eat Wheaties, but if I did and decided to piss in them, that I wouldn’t have to pay for the right to do it. If I buy the Wheaties I can do anything I want in them. That’s how the free market works. You are pathetic!

  14. I think the Owen Block is beautiful enough to save. I would personally like to see the city save the building, not necessarily renovate it. It’s an architectural jewel. At this time the city should put a roof on it and stabilize the structure from further damage.

    • They why don’t you put up your OWN MONEY to buy it and renovate it. If you want to see it renovated go for it. But don’t be reaching into everyone else’s back pocket for some money to do what you like. Do it yourself. No one is stopping you.

      • Yup! If I could, I would. Of course, if I could solve every ill in this world, I would. So would you. Priorities sometimes suck…

        Back when I played softball, I played for teams that participated in fundraiser tournaments. I only put “the bite” on sponsoring companies or individuals for a buck ($1). My theory was (& still is) was that if EVERYONE that could give, give a dollar & if those dollars were properly disbursed, we could move mountains. Color me an idiot if you must but I still believe in the awesome power of human nature. Peace!

    • One thing I have seen in every big city I have visited is they save the front facets an tear down the rest. Requiring the buyer to incorporate the old with the new. This saves the history while removing the hazard.

    • Earth to Vandy Republican (?). The city is BROKE. Today, tomorrow, and forever. Just like the Federal Government.
      Maybe you could spearhead a movement to ditch the hotel and med school giveaways and re-direct some of the money to the Owen project.

      • Cronies political projects bite forward as well Here’s a take in from our social economic analysis run this morning that’s kind of disturbing to hear, how ever darn predictable.
        The Medical school site on a failed utility and logistics infrastructure is not smart metro thinking. Just not the way too recovery.
        We.ve really been waiting to hear what is the cost just to create valuation expectations on the proposed downtown convention hotel and the IU medical studies development on that poor locations logistical accesses and the sewer and water infrastructure to sustain either of them without addressing the very same issue where in fact people are living trying to work and balance a living in other affected sections of the town. Those sections if living and working revenues are being received by the city forward. how can one justify the cost for infrastructure balanced to sustain the expanding climate migrations to be “installed first in” on those projected sites when what is left of the rest of the active revenue base is historically systematically ignored in that town.

        We’ve concluded your election might score some observation by the “outside looking in.”

        How the methodology is applied ought to be an interesting observation critical to the entire clean water balance of the North American Ohio River drainage basin.
        Right now your inputs are huge negative towards acceptable balancing on nationwide scale.

        Wow, and the most advanced logistically positive Medical school site for your state and towns available funding lays waiting with viable logistics and expandable infrastructure in place. At either the USI campus, or the Warrick Vanderburgh shared metro balancing site at I-69 direct access. “Good grief that has a an easy solution”.

        http://www.tristatehomepage.com/story/d/story/usi-president-appears-before-house-committee-for-i/39407/IJDWCDWYGUSmpnqRcEP9rQ

  15. Trial Balloon on CCO Subscription:

    Receptive, if you:

    1) Make a pay-by-check option (given prior hacks of your site); and
    2) Assurance that no Vectren advertising will be accepted. I boycott your site when you run Vectren ads.

    Also, I post at both home and work (different IP addresses). Are you going to use a Password going-forward ?

  16. As much as I like to follow the trolls ( my fav is tgotj) I just can”t see enough real content to warrant paying. Sorry CCO.

  17. One more thought: why not have Memberships ? Set the annual membership fee to include unlimited usage on the site, and a discount to the Mole Awards Luncheon, etc. ?

  18. At the risk of inflaming the hatred of all the anti C & P’ers…

    The article on Miller electroplating was stellar, as has the entire “Who Owns That?” series. An excellent example of what a journalist and newspaper can do if they really want to – – in-depth reporting of specific topics of interest to their locality.

    What’s sad is that the C & P has shown it CAN do it, it just seems to lack the political will to turn that same skillset onto the local political hacks that run this town and the damage they’ve done. Too bad. It could really be force for good governance.

    • Delta,

      I would disagree that ‘Who Owns That ?’ was an excellent series. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed reading it, but it got way too mired down in the PROCESS by which properties go into tax sale, and how the vultures who buy tax liens make money, etc. That process should have been shown in a sidebar, once, yet it was repeated in literally every new installment. What would have been much more illuminating would be to come up with a total number of vacant homes, and do statistics. Show the number of vacant homes by street, etc. Maybe show the total by ‘Status of Vacancy’ (foreclosure, abandoned, burned out). An Aging Report (how long abandoned) would have been very helpful. Compare that to the grants etc. which have been received to tear down homes. That way, readers can infer that x percent of the total vacant housing has been funded for demolition, etc. Maybe additional stats for Brownfields, etc. which will be rehabbed instead of demolished, etc. A lot of ways to look at this devastating problem of blight.

      A lot of good work by the C & P reporter, I believe it was T. Langhorne, but I thought it would have been better if it took more of a BIG PICTURE look, instead of drilling down to single addresses and the red tape required to tear one down (was that done to run defense for the City Administration ?).

      • UFO, what you noted (statistical analysis and breakdown of the problem by ward, etc.) would indeed have been an excellent add-on to the series. Maybe it still will happen. Detailling the process by which these properties are bought and sold was critical to understanding a number of things, in my opinion, including why it takes so long for action to be taken, how rules have been written to the benefit of dirtbag investors and owners, etc. Maybe the reporters didn’t need to include these details in each piece, but the details were illuminating nontheless. They explain the ‘who’, ‘how’ and ‘why’, and the statistics you note explain the ‘what’ and ‘where’. All of these questions are cornerstones of good journalism – – the series would be lacking without a balanced addressing of all of them.

        Drilling down into the nitty gritty of a single property is illuminating in the way that a study of a disease is illuminating by focusing on a single patient – – saying “Alzheimer’s effects X% of the population and here is the breakdown in numbers and costs of care per state” is good. A study on how the disease came to be and how it affects a single patient and how it is being addressed is also good, and gives a different insight into the problem.

        It bugs me a bit when I hear folks crowing with delight that the C & P might be having financial problems or might close down. Done properly, there is no substitute for a local newspaper. Hooting and hollering for it’s demise is short-sighted.

        • How About hooting and hollering about a new owner and a change in management. That’s what I look forward too. The Sooner Ethridge goes the better IMHO>

          • @DeltaBravo + Moveon:

            I agree with both of you, I want C & P print edition to survive, but it simply has to get more objective and print articles which point out reality about the activities at 1 N.W. MLKing Jr. Blvd. Get rid of Pate and Ethridge, and hopefully the boys from Milwaukee will install real journalists. The C&P online is an utter fiasco with its media manipulation via the pay walls, I do hope that one folds.

        • Too both of you , question? During the combined sewer overflow conditions where would one perceive the bio-chemical and Pharmaceutical discharges from your archaic sewers in those downtown and Jacobsville and north side industrials, or! Your DOC , and some EVSC locations goes? We know, the primaries do now, as well, so who would like the answers? (note the plural”)
          Excuses are not acceptable to the overhead observations, in todays balancing, So. Lets go “real time” next CSO event. That would be the fairest balance applied today, right?

          http://www.caryinstitute.org/newsroom/streams-stressed-pharmaceutical-pollution

    • I have to agree with you. That is how the Evansville Courier and Press use to operation. They should do more articles like the Miller one. They have lost their way for the most part.

      • Yup. Heaven knows there plenty of opportunities for intelligent journalism in this area, I just wish the C & P would get more aggressive about it. They do (at least on the editorial side) tend to play apologist for the local powers-that-be.

  19. I enjoy reading the CCO, but I won’t be reading it if a subscription fee is imposed.

  20. WHEW!! Scared da hell outta me, Thought it (CCO) was gonna be like sex—good while it lasted altho wife said it took me longer to read IIT than it did to have at it……..Glad it still free (unlike sex) but I could maybe find some loose change to keep up with the dirt down in E’ville. Cartoons would be nice too.

  21. http://www.courierpress.com/news/local-news/city-eyes-student-housing-possibility-at-dpatrick-body-shop_11210718

    I smell another potential but limited Environmental Problem and look at this: another LLC company or two is involved in this land transfer. And guess who’s getting the responsibility for any environmental clean up. The future developer of course. Hey, here is an idea. Have the owner of the current body shop pay for any environmental Phase I, II and III audit’s/cleanup before the property is transferred to another LLC company.

    Look at the mess that Miller Electroplating left and they were an LLC company too. The laws need to be changed to make these LLC property owners pay for the clean up of any messes they make. That’s just how things should be done.

    • Tip of the zones Iceberg friend. Its the actual working and revenue based citizens balance that would be destroyed straight up real time fast that concerns our overhead observations.
      Geez, so many jobs and all on the tipping point. And only because the lousy historical ignorance of the actual problem there verses some stinking political cronies recovery for really bad investments. Of course that’s historically manipulated as well. People of the Evansville metro, study what is considered to be an goldilocks zone. You idiots are failing your geophysical footprint massively with this real estate cronies fueling bullshit. Coprolite, for those nitpicking assholes that want to contest the recovered.
      Straight stuff no chasers,and no BS, those numbers are recovered, as well.

      Put your three card boy up again……please as that’s real easy.

      http://capitolcommentary.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/three-card-monte.jpg

  22. Since the subject of presidential aspirations topic has been raised this is my scouting report of
    the GOP clown car.

    Ben Carsen – Token Paid off GOP lackey
    Bobby Jindal – Evolution denying, voodoo spouting exercism nutjob
    Scott Walker – Koch Puppet, dumber than a hammer, horrid economic record
    John Kasich – Exhibit A of the white privilege in this country that let’s a dumbass
    become an investment banker
    Mike Pence Hateful embarrassment to Indiana, wants to void the duly elected powers of Glenda Ritz
    like the fascist he is
    Marco Rubio Another climate change denying dumbass, token Hispanic in the clown car
    Rick Perry Resides in a big log cabin, even dumber than Walker and Rubio!
    Ted Cruz Complete and utter whack job, pandering McCarthyite, the biggest ass clown of them all
    and that’s saying something
    Rick Santorum Self-loathing, in the closet, theocrat/whackjob

    Jeb Bush W the lesser’s brother, pretending, like his brother to be a moderate. All I got to say is
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! Say Terri Schiavo and he’s finished

    Mitt Romney High class thief, never disclosed his tax returns showing he was in the illegal overseas bank
    account amnesty program. He and Bain walked away form about $100 MILLION in bankruptcy
    court so if you hate walking away from debt you must really, really, really, hate Romney.

    Rand Paul Goofball Libertarian trying to straddle every fence out there

    Chris Christie Abrasive bully and jagbag Corrupt to the core, crony capitalist, and lying jerk
    Used Sandy money for political flyers and ads. First class scumbag

    • Ah yes here go the lobbies following the handbook again. Anyone on the other side of the isle must be demised, put down and insulted. You have no clear and actual documentation of their supposed “evil” actions and attitudes. But that doesn’t matter. Follow the “Rules for Radicals” and the 3 “d’s” Demonize, deflect and deny.

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