IS IT TRUE JULY 8, 2016

1. Conservative logic: hold all Muslims responsible for the actions of a few. “Police? Hey, pal! Any group has a few bad apples!” I think a good place to start is to give up the “blue code of silence” and start holding each other accountable. As president Obama said, there’s no excuse for the Dallas thing and we need to stop right wing dirt bags like PAK from allowing anyone who even begins to question law enforcement behavior be labeled as a cop hater, unamerican, or whatever else conservatives like to call those who disagree with them. Upholding the bill of rights does not mean you hate cops, but sadly the right uses things like blue light campaigns to erode the bill of rights. It’s the same concept as calling anyone opposed to war unpatriotic. It’s easy to control the sheepish masses.

   • Ghost of Jode, your comment is very disrespectful and your police hate speech should be banned from the CCO.

     • Here’s a prime example of what I’m talking about. That didn’t take long. NOTHING in my comment is disrespectful to police. This is how the right completely hijacks any discussion.

       • Five statistics you need to know about cops killing blacks:

         http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler

         • Press, if this does’t break your heart, then you don’t have a heart. So very sad.

           https://twitter.com/JaredWyand/status/751293856520478720/video/1

         • Full of confirmation bias as usual.

         • You don’t know anything about that video, the people, or if it was even related to this incident. Remember the photos of the black guy posted online saying it was Trayvon Martin throwing up gang signs but in reality it was some rapper? Remember the photos of some guy with a black and blue face claiming it was Darren Wilson when it was really a photo of a guy who was in a motocross accident? My point is racist liars like you have a history of posting disinformation, and lots of it. PAK and JoeBiden could be the next Dylann Roof. They truly are a danger to society.

         • @ JB I’ll “unbreak your heart.” Not one single police officer has verified anything in this tweet. He’s apparently lying. According to bystanders, people were running away. It was reported that a handful of idiots – there are always some in a crowd that large – did taunt and yell obscenities at the police as the demonstration broke up. But that was before the shots rang out. You need to quit forming your opinions based on the lowest common denominators of humanity.

     • +1

       • +1 to MainSteetDemo. Ghost was comic relief for a while, not he’s just a conduit of vile hate speech. I second a ban from the CCO.

         • Again, another example of my point. The second anyone disagrees with you do your best to discredit them. Oh Joe, you’re far too predictable. I don’t condone violence from either side, yet Joe will lie and hijack the conversation. This is the go to play for right wing radicals.

       • I can not be the only person in this country who is concerned about the timing of the event in Dallas. I believe the FBI should investigate this incident to determine the genesis behind it.

         • False flag!! Call Alex Jones!!

         • I agree ,the clinton gang is connected with very many odd coincidenctal deaths “the clinton body count” keeps rising….
           Hillry and bll want news on something else other then their lying crooked asses, so just how far will they go to try starting a race war ?

2. Excellent IIT. The left wing political demonization of our LEOs fanned the fires of racial division and helps justify violent protest and violent actions against LEOs. Any one that claims Police have declared war on minorities and the poor has helped justify this violence on the LEOs and has blood on their hands. Think of the organized violence with Fredddy Gray, Travon, Ferguson Mo. and now Dallas, where a deadly and coordinated LEO ambush was set up at a Black Lives Matter rally. Mark my words, the liberal left will end up calling for more gun control on law abiding citizens and continue their self-serving efforts to racially divide Americans for their own political gain. Its wrong and heartbreaking. But, its what the liberal left and their race baiters do.

   http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3680097/Protests-sweep-nation-thousands-demand-justice-Alton-Sterling-Philando-Castile-black-men-shot-dead-police.html

3. Very sad for those officers who were killed last night in Dallas. The murderers took away someone’s son/husband/father. Shortsighted and counterproductive method of getting their point across. The process that ends them up on the gurney with a needle in their arm will now start. They will soon be forgotten, the dead officer’s families will be scarred forever.

   • All so true!!!!

   • Very well stated, Bandana. There has to be a dialogue started, and people like PAK and JB will stones in the road. Just as the shooters in Dallas give African Americans a bad image among whites who have little interaction with them, the actions of the white policemen who killed Alton Sterling and Philando Castile give a negative impression about police officers.

     To see a peaceful, well-organized protest like the one in Dallas go awry as it did is a terrible thing. I did notice that the bloodshed was not stopped by a “good guy with a gun” even in open-carry, gun happy Texas. It was stopped by a robot with a bomb.

     • Peaceful, well-organized? Yep. One of the organizers (Mark Hughes) walking around in a camoflage shirt carrying a rifle strapped across his chest. What was the peaceful purpose if that?
       Gee, I wonder why tbe police considered him a “person of interest”? Yes, he turned himself in, and yes he was interogated and released, but no, no one shot him.

       • Whatever happened to rabid NRA and Republican defense of open carry rights? Oh yeah, he’s black.

       • Texas is an open carry state, and Mr. Hughes exercised his legal right to carry a weapon, just as Philando Castile did. Do you think the Second Amendment only applies to white people?

         • That’s what he thinks but won’t openly admit I reckon.

         • If you are “registered” to open carry, there should be no issue.
           If you are in a area that bans “open carry”, then there is a issue.
           If you use a weapon “offensively”, then there is a issue.

         • Think again GTJ. I see no need to carry open, even if it is legal. All it does is serve to agitate and antagonize people. Plus it’s a weak attempt to cover up a lack of confidence. Me, I’m licensed to carry (and I’m trained how to respond and use it) and I often carry concealed (when I find the need to do so). If some dimwit, bottom feeding, mouth breathing, wanta’ be thug decides he/she wants to threaten my companions or me I’ll be happy to educate them regarding their error in judgement.

         • Classic Internet tough guy.

         • To show you just how crazy and complicated this subject is, I have never packed heat in my life because I remember what a wise man said one time, “A man needs to know his limitations.”

           I’m hotheaded =’s – Don’t pack – =’s, I’ve made it to 66 unscathed.

           Now, in a situation where there was no hope of survival but Dutchman was there packing and after knowing this,” and I’m trained how to respond and use it) , ”

           Would I question Dutchman’s ability before he went to shooting?

           Nope. And even though he may not of succeeded in saving him and me, I still believe in the Second Amendments authority of giving us a chance to survive.

           Crazy shit man….

4. Maybe HER HIGHNESS a’k/a Messy Nosby together with Weaver the Weasel and of course goof ball McGinn need to add an amendment to the ordinance rightly named the “Elimination of the 1st Amendment” to require, if HER HIGHNESS so allows you an audience with HER MAJESTY that you must back away from the podium until you return to your seat ..always remember that the QUEEN can NEVER be allowed to see your ass ..of course we she her all the time ..

   • What ever happened to “Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth.” – Abraham Lincoln

     Sounds like our City Council needs a history lesson on why they were voted into office “by the people”!

     • Mosby was voted into office by 15 misguided Democrats and a rotten deal with Wayne Parke.

5. The police officers certainly deserve our love and support. They for the most part do their job silently and proudly. Sometimes doing their job puts them in harms way for trivial matters and that can be stopped.

   There is one thing that could prevent some of these police shootings and it would require a change in protocol. Stop pulling people over for trivial offenses. The latest shootings by police occurred after enforcing laws like driving with a tail light out, and selling CDs in public. Last year a gentleman was choked to death for selling single cigarettes. If the police had a protocol to not forcefully intervene for these trivial crimes they would never have been in harms way and the protests that followed would not have happened.

   How about common sense enforcement. Our jails are also full of people incarcerated at taxpayer expense for trivial matters. Selling one marijuana cigarette in Indiana can get one thrown in jail and costing taxpayers $50,000 per year. Does that make any sense? Our over zealous enforcement of trivial laws has lead to death and violence. It is time for common sense laws and enforcement. It will save police lives, peoples lives and promote domestic tranquility.

   Would you risk your life over a burned out light bulb or a damn cigarette? My guess is no. Then why do we expect our police force to waste their time and lives on such idiocies.

   • Bingo!!!! Guess who is keeping petty crimes illegal Joe??????

     • Petty crimes? Illegal? Uh, any crime is illegal. Unless you’re a left-wing sociopath like GTJ. Then you’re allowed to violate laws as you see fit.

   • Joe, it sounds like….

     1. You are either blaming police officers for enforcing laws that the people’s duly elected representatives have enacted, OR
     2. You are encouraging police officers to selectively enforce laws, allowing them to individually determine what they believe is ‘trivial’ and what is not.

     Is that the case?

     • No I am not blaming them. Quite frankly I feel very sorry for the police officers who are expected to squander their training and time on trivial matters that put them in harms way.

       It is the duly elected representatives who are to blame for passing laws that endanger both good citizens like the young man in Minnesota who lost his life over a tail light, and the policeman who pulled the car over, who will now face charges and a lifetime of trauma. It is tragic on both sides of the window.

       I would encourage officers to exercise common sense in carrying out their duties. Many do, but the younger and more ambitious they are the more wedded they are to towing the line for their bosses.

       As a taxpayer and a citizen, I prefer that police officers concentrate on public safety as opposed to trivia. Yes, I do consider a tail light and a 16 year old with a doobie to be trivial issues. Tail lights should not be a reason to pull someone over. If there is a moving violation that merits a traffic stop and a tail light happens to be out, then by all means advise the driver and issue a supplemental ticket if that is what the rules say. Otherwise, police time would be better spent waiting for a real dangerous driver to come by.

       • I appreciate the response, Mr. Wallace. I agree in part, but you are essentially saying that officers should not bother with what you consider ‘trivial’ issues. Fair enough. Timothy McVeigh was pulled over after the Oklahoma City bombing because he was driving without a license plate. That’s a famous example, but LOTS of good police work is done by officers who feel that something is off, and are savvy enough to find a reason to further investigate a situation – – often a ‘trivial’ reason, such as failure to use a turn signal or failure to yield at a traffic signal. I suspect an anonymous poll of actual working beat officers would show that practically none of them go out of their way to enforce ‘trivial’ traffic violations unless they think it will lead to bigger things.

         Also, a “16 year old with a doobie” isn’t a big deal to you, or me, or pretty much anybody that I know. But it is STILL against the law. Telling officers that they should basically ignore laws or offenses they don’t consider important is a damn slippery slope. Picture a detective deciding that investigating the murder of a known drug dealer (who was probably murdered by ANOTHER drug dealer) can be permanently put on the back burner, because who gives a shit? The world is a better place with the guy dead.

         • What I really advocate for is common sense laws and a protocol hierarchy for the police that prioritizes enforcement by the safety of society. The whole “it’s the law” attitude does not differentiate between murder and selling single cigarettes.

           I grew up in Sturgis and had lemonade stands in front of my parents house to earn nickels and dimes. I did not have a permit which means I was violating the same laws as that gentleman from Staten Island who was choked to death for selling single cigarettes.

           The police never bothered me about it. Some even stopped and bought lemonade without getting after me for being a law breaking punk with no permit. That is common sense.

           Now if I had been a 250 pound adult black man selling the lemonade, the choice to enforce may have been different and I acknowledge that.

         • Joe, thanks for at least acknowledging racial bias exists. Fox news tells their zombies that there is no racism except racism against white people.

         • This is a good example of what Wallace is talking about. A black man takes off his seat belt after exiting the roadway but before stopping at the pump and ends up shot all stemming from a seat belt violation;

           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE

           Something else I got out of this video for all you heat packing Rambos out there, the trooper shot at this man at extremely close range 4 times and hit him once in the thigh.

           The New York police department is the most highly trained in the world but only hits their target 34% of the time in high stress situations.

           So if you must pack, get Kevlar for your kids for Christmas. It will give them a 22% better chance of not being killed by your gun….

         • @ Regulator The good news is that the trigger happy cop in this video went to prison and the victim lived.

         • Amazing no body here mentions “attitudes” and “body languish” that tips off to the policeman to whom their dealing with! The internet can quickly pull up info on whom they had stopped which is at their fingertips. Ol’ Joe Wallace(with all do respect), who sold lemonade at his parents house as a kid, gets pulled over for a taillight out. A quick check lets the officer know they are dealing with a law abiding citizen. When Joe is spoke to by the officer, he is civil to the policeman as is let off with a warning.

           Then there is the other Joe Wallace. Ran around with a bad group, since he was a kid. Petty thief as a passage to belong to this group. It had escalated from there which left a “rap sheet” of being in and out of the court system. Ol Joe gets pulled over for a taillight out. Policeman pulls his record up and see what they are dealing with. When Joe is spoke to by the officer, Joe’s attitude and body languish is not civil, resulting in the officer to take what ever means necessary. Ol Joe was found with maybe one of several things in his possession. Illegal firearm, drugs, stolen property., etc. You think Joe got off with a warning? A twist to this is that Ol Joe may had struggled with the officer and lost his life! Should we feel sorry for that Joe?

           Ol Joe Wallace could be from any race/ethnic group in each of these situations.
           The officer could had been from any race/ethnic group as well.
           It is all about attitudes and body languish. Not the color combination!
           If you resist/tussle with a law enforcer, you should expect unhappy results!

     • If you understand the difference in an infraction, a misdemeanor, and a felony you know full well which laws are trivial. I would think all police officers know that.

6. That’s exactly my point, but racists like PAK and JoeBiden will attack your patriotism or accuse you of hating all police the second you even start to question any police behavior no matter how wildly inappropriate it might be. They can’t refute what you’re saying so they attack your ability to say it. Classic right wing tactics.

   • I found a Jon Stewart quote on Facebook that sums up my feelings perfectly. “You can truly grieve for every officer who’s been lost in the line of duty to his country and still be troubled by cases of police overreach. Those two ideas are not mutually exclusive. You can have great regard for law enforcement and still want them held to high standards.”

     There will always be people like PAK and JB, who try to dress their bigotry up as patriotism.

     • I suppose you and ghost are not bigots? Who had better look up the meaning of the word. When I disagree with you I am a bigot? What are you when you disagree with me and others on here? It is time for you two to grow up.

       • I am not intolerant. I have many people with whom I disagree vehemently that I count among respected friends. I suppose I should change my statement.

         “There will always be people like PAK and JB who will try to dress up their hate and racism as sanctimony. ” Is that better.

       • Press, +1. We are called bigots because we believe “all” lives matter. Not just specially named groups of lives. Here’s the choice Obama has to make, or has already made:

         “Obama — uniquely positioned to talk about race as the son of a black African man and a white American woman — must choose. He can tell the party to stop playing racial politics, call for calm, and get serious about the widespread problem of ill-prepared, under-trained officers in the field, or he can ignore those problems and continue to claim that these random and rare police shootings are a mark of systemic racism.”

         http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/anti-police-rhetoric-turns-deadly/

         • When someone says black lives matter, they’re not also saying other lives don’t matter. That would be like a fire department responding to a fire and spraying down all the houses in the neighborhood not just the one that was burning. Yes JB, you ARE a racist. No, calling out your racism doesn’t make me a racist. Put away your white victimhood card.

7. This is the known shooter’s background. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3680988/Pictured-Micah-Xavier-Johnson-25-year-old-shot-12-cops-Dallas-Black-Lives-Matter-protest-killing-five-saying-wanted-kill-white-people-especially-white-officers.html

   • And here is the Baton Rouge “victim’s” background. It wasn’t his first rodeo.

     Here’s Alton Sterling, the guy they’re making a cause celebre out of.

     9/09/96 aggravated battery

     10/31/97 2nd degree battery

     1/06/98 simple battery

     5/04/00 public intimidation

     9/20/00 carnal knowledge of a juvenile

     9/04/01 domestic violence

     5/24/05 burglary of an inhabited dwelling place

     7/11/05 receiving stolen things

     9/12/05 burglary of inhabited dwelling place

     3/17/06 simple criminal damage to property, simple robbery, simple theft, drug possession, misrepresentation during booking, simple battery, aggravated battery

     4/12/06 aggravated battery, simple criminal damage to property, disturbing the peace, unauthorized entry

     4/04/08 domestic abuse battery

     6/03/09 resisting an officer, drug possession, receiving stolen things, possession of stolen firearm, illegal carrying of a weapon with CDs, sound reproduct without consent

     10/12/09 illegal carrying of weapon, marijuana possession

     8/13/15 failure to register as a sex offender

     4/08/16 failure to register as a sex offender

     6/14/16 ecstacy and marijuana possession

     None of that makes it OK if the cops shot him while he was subdued. And that’s the argument here; if he was subdued at the time he was shot, it’s a bad shooting and the two cops involved, Blane Salamoni and Howie Lake II, need to face criminal charges for it.

     But if not, and he was actually reaching for the gun he had on him, which would have been an illegal gun and it wouldn’t be the first time he had an illegal gun on him when the cops arrested him (and it wouldn’t be the first time he was resisting arrest, either), then there isn’t much to argue about here.

     What this arrest record shows is not the story the family and the “community” is trying to paint, of a “misunderstood” poor father trying to earn a living selling CD’s. He got arrested three weeks ago on drug possession – that’s hardly somebody trying to turn his life around. His arrest record shows that, charitably, he was a wannabe drug dealer but wasn’t very good at it.

     • His background is totally irrelevant.

       • Sure, just like Hillary’s and Bill’s backgrounds are irrelevant. Did you pose for this photo?

         http://churchofthefridge.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/blinders-on-carrot.jpg

       • Really? Did your psychiatrist change your meds again?

     • The Dallas cop killer had no prior record. What the hell is your point?

     • None of those are capital crimes. He was murdered on the accusation of a third party and because he had a gun and was black. He was clearly immobilized and the cop on top of him just pumped a few rounds into him because he could. He denied justice to Alton Sterling by being his judge, jury, and executioner.

       • LKB please wait for all the facts to be published before making a knee jerk statement based on what you thought you saw in private videos. Also, please understand that no one is immobilized until they are handcuffed behind their back in a situation like that. I don’t expect you to understand that if you have never been in that situation. I have.

         • LKB is just a closed mind sociopath left-wing racist. She is of the opinion that a member of her family is always discriminated against and it’s always because they’re not Caucasian, never because they’re not qualified. Like Obama, Laura is part of the problem, not the solution.

       • Wow! In 4 days you’ve completely figured out what happened in the sterling case. Impressive!

         Strange thing is, it will take subject matter experts thousands of hours of analysis, the study of case law by dozens of attorneys, video and audio analysis by experts in the field, and then the careful consideration of all evidence by two legal teams, federal authorities, a judge or two, and a jury in a trial that may stretch on for months for folks other than you to come to a conclusion. You are either preternaturally gifted or you’re making a judgement without knowing all the facts. I shudder to think it might be the latter…

       • “murdered”? That’s a statement by a pot calling the kettle black. Talk about being someone being a jury and judge. But then, what else can be expected from an intolerant, left-wing, sociopath, racist as you portray?

         The videos that have been posted are incomplete and only provide a partial report on what occurred. Even so, it’s quite evident the individual was resisting and not immobilized. Let’s await all of the facts (including videos from area security cameras) before you pronounce your verdict.

8. right on dutchman…….how was this guy free to terrorize the public and not in jail…………….barry hussein the commie community organizer learned well from his rev wright hate and divide……..to quote barry hussein “if i had a son he would look just like xavier johnson”…………….God Bless Our Police……………..God Bless America…….

9. http://drudgereport.com/

10. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-cops-killed-white-men-conservatives-silent-article-1.2632965

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