IS IT TRUEÂ that some people feel that gentrification to the tax collector and the American taxpayer is a profoundly positive thing?…they feel converting Section 8 housing to market rate allows for the property to be reassessed based on its revenue collection which makes government officials very happy?…they also feel getting rid of Section 8 housing also removes a tax burden from the taxpayers?
IS IT TRUE the only problem with gentrification is that it displaces people who have been getting subsidies and who may not have the ability to get by without a housing subsidy?…gentrification has been known to grow homelessness?…in some cases like East Palo Alto, CA gentrification has been an overwhelming success in uplifting the area?…in another one which is the liberal bastion of Santa Monica it lead to the city using it’s laws to round up he homeless and put them on Greyhound busses to Phoenix with a one way ticket, therefore exporting their problem to another state?…that is a pretty disgusting way for Santa Monica to conduct themselves?
IS IT TRUE that when the dust up over the conversion of the Lincoln Estates started, Evansville Mayor Lloyd Winnecke caught the political compassion bug and was talking about allocating some taxpayer money (around $100,000) to help relocate the dislocated residents?…that idea must not have gotten much traction with City Council and may not have even been legal, so his tune has changed?…in the latest discussion Mayor Winnecke is distancing himself from the downtrodden folks with the following statement: “I understand the fear,†Mayor Lloyd Winnecke said. “I understand why people are concerned. We just have to keep the lines of discussion open. We have to keep communicating with people in these neighborhoods.â€
IS IT TRUE that talk (communication) always has and always will be CHEAP?…the statement above is not only shallow but patronizing and useless to a person facing a summer in the streets?…there is mechanism out there in Indiana to deal partially with being forced out of housing?…we wonder why the Township Trustee for the ward that Lincoln Estates is in has not come forward with some assistance?…that is why Township Trustees exist?…it will be interesting to see how this plays out but what is good for downtown Evansville is obviously not so good for people who have been living on a housing subsidy for many years?
IS IT TRUE we wonder when this property was in bankruptcy why didn’t The Office Of The Special Inspector General For The Troubled Asset Relief Program (Investigations Division) out of Washington, D C pay a visit to Evansville to look at the Lincoln Estates issue?
We are proud of our ghetto and want to keep it that way. In this conversation I see no mention of the homeowners in the area. Their investment in their property. Their ability to keep up their home is contingent on being able to sell there home. Right now you can not sell a home for any price that comes close to what you have invested in it. These areas will continue to deteriorate with the current policies. Also most of the homes in the area do not qualify for section 8. Who is really benefiting keeping this area for the so called poor? I also see no concern about the poor around north main being displaced. What is the real agenda here? Folks this aint about helping poor people.
Of course it’s about helping poor people, but the hogs at the trough have to be fed to prime the pump. No slop for the hogs, no help for the poor.
SD – I don’t understand your logic. You want to help homeowners in the area, right? You want to improve the quality of the neighborhood, right? You want things to improve and no longer “be a ghetto,” right? That’s your point, right?
Help those homeowners be able to justify investing in repairs and improvements to their homes, because there is an upside to that, right?
Help them be able to sell their home at some point in the future, should they choose to do that, and actually see an improvement in that selling price, right?
You do that by improving overall property values. The highest and best use for Lincoln Estates is no longer Section 8 housing, it is private market housing. That is news. Downtown Evansville has momentum. That is because of increasing demand, and improving property values.
Stonedreamer, IF YOUR AGENDA is to improve these neighborhoods, to help those neighborhoods be sustainable, that neighborhood needs property-owning, property-values-are-increasing….stakeholders.
I can’t tell if you are complaining about helping Section 8 occupants find housing.
Or if you are trying to improve neighborhoods so it’s not all Section 8 housing?
But if you want to help homeowners and neighborhoods, in a not-a-bandaid, but a sustainable way, then increase the value of their property. The trend is clear that this is happening, right?
And improve the value of people’s skills plus the one’s who need to break the bad habits that made them in the first place need to alter their way of living. Ultimately everything is better and more prosperous when there is no need for subsidized housing period.
“The Power of Habit”
Why We Do What We Do in Life and Business
(NYT Best Seller….on why habits exist and how they can be changed, both personally and within your own company.)
Author: Charles Duhigg
You seem to imply the problem is homeowners not keeping their property up. You may not be aware of this but most of the homeowners who actually live in their homes own them. I mean really own them no mortgage. The reason for this is redlining it was almost impossible to get a loan in this area for decades. Which meant if you needed repairs you paid out of pocket. Not many people can do that. Most of these homeowners have lived in their homes for decades. They have put tens of thousands of dollars in their homes over the years. Myself over a $100,000. I and my neighbors are getting old and and our children have no interest in our properties. I have been accused for forty years that I just want to make a killing on my property. I do not think that is going to happen. I and the other real home owners in this area have always been left out of the conversation. Except to be told to keep up my property and it would all be good. I and my neighbors have kept up our property and it is has not helped.
Is it true the new owner of Lincoln Estates is City Pointe Evansville, LLC, just formed on April 5, 2017 and operates from a Mail Pac N Fax office in Sarasota Florida??
https://bsd.sos.in.gov/PublicBusinessSearch/BusinessInformation?businessId=1189477&isSeries=False
Business Details Print Entity Details
Business Name: CITY POINTE EVANSVILLE, LLC Business ID: 201704051189477
Entity Type: Domestic Limited Liability Company Business Status: Active
Creation Date: 04/05/2017 Inactive Date:
Principal Office Address: 8499 S Tamiami Trl., #265, Sarasota, FL, 34238, USA Expiration Date: Perpetual
Domicile State: Indiana Business Entity Report Due Date: 04/30/2019
Years Due:
Registered Agent Information
Type: Individual
Name: George Zarris
Address: 10284 NICKLAUS ST, Crown Point, IN, 46307, USA
http://www.superpages.com/gallery/0116586759
Section 8 like all welfare should be a short term hand up…………not a long term hand out life choice…that all government handouts have become……………times are changing under President Trump………unemployment rate is now at a 16 yr low……………..time to get a Job…………
(Trump is the laughingstock of the country Al. You too, if you expect us to believe THAT YOU are quoting and touting unemployment stats, that SIX MONTHS AGO, you dismissed as made up and meaningless.)
The official unemployment calculation method has become obsolete for calibrating reality. It’s only value is in continuity and giving the person in power a feel good number to boast about. Too many people have found a way to get by without working or have given up hope for this number to mean anything.
I don’t know. You have someone who wants to make an improvement and it is not on the tax payers dollar? I am sorry but I am favoring the new owners.
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