IS IT TRUE February 19, 2015

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IS IT TRUE every day that the identity of the three person midnight boat cleaning crew that is credited with starting the fire on the first boat at Inland Marina are not released is another day for conspiracy theories to flourish?…there are very few good reasons for these names to be kept secret?…what is amazing is that someone hasn’t outed the anonymous cleaning crew through social media?…it was social media that outed poor ole Brian Williams for embellishing a story that never led to the destruction of over $2 Million worth of private property?…it is only fair to conclude that whomever or whatever is helping keep these identities secret has a very serious aversion to transparency about naming these three people?…there is no news of a hunt for fugitives and no call for prosecution?…it seems as though the best course of action would be for these three midnight amigos to just come forward and take credit for their accident and put all of the mystery to rest?…there are very few things that bind a group of three together in silence and none of those things are positive under the present circumstances?…everyone else who set foot on the property has been outed for doing so, except for the midnight cleaning crew who everyone accepts started the fire?

IS IT TRUEthe strange case of the Union County Fiscal Court purchasing stolen equipment for prices that are just a dollar under what they must send out for bids by law is taking a strange turn?…the accused thieves both of whom hail from Vanderburgh County are petitioning the court to dismiss the charges?…the inconvenient truths are that it is well established that the equipment purchased by Union County was stolen and in some cases it is even documented who it was stolen from?…it is also documented by cancelled check who Union County bought the gear from?…if the charges against the accused end up being dismissed, their attorney needs to be inducted into the legal hall of fame?

IS IT TRUE after the win over Drake the University of Evansville Purple Aces men’s basketball team is sitting on 19 wins with three games to go to get that 20th win during the regular season?…with games against highly ranked Wichita State and Northern Iowa the odds are not in the Aces favor even though they have been known to knock off both of these perennial powers?…the most probable 20th win is the last game of the season at the Ford Center against Illinois State?…if the Aces come through with their 20th win, it will be the first time since 1999 that they have achieved a 20 win regular season?…that is also the last NCAA tournament appearance the Aces made when they got hot and won their conference tournament?…

IS IT TRUE the Ford Center has proudly announced that Evansville favorite Kenny Chesney will be coming to town to do a concert at the big new arena on Main Street?…while this is one concert that the CCO predicts will sell out, it is not an artist that would not have played at Roberts Stadium?…the reality is that Kenny Chesney has played to sell out crowds at Roberts Stadium so often that he could have been considered the house band out on Boeke?…it has been nearly four years since Bob Seger opened the Ford Center and there has not been so much as one act that has not played at or would have been glad to play Roberts Stadium in the shape it was in before its premature demise at the hands of it’s owner?…the music fans of Evansville have not heard a whisper of Rush or Metallica coming to town which were two of the acts that were touted in the rigged town hall meetings to bait the people of the River into silent acceptance of the unneeded construction project?

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160 COMMENTS

  1. Is it true that an appeals court has ordered that Paul McManus be released if prosecutors do not order a new trial date ?

    McManus was sentenced to death in 2002, after being convicted of fatally shooting his estranged wife, Melissa, 29, and their two children, Lindsey, 8, and Shelby, 23 months on Feb. 26, 2001. After doing so, he jumped off the US. 41 Evansville-Henderson twin bridges in an alleged attempt to commit suicide.

    The appeals court said McManus was not competent to stand trial due to medication he was given to combat panic attacks be began suffering from after the start of his trial. (Google ‘Appeals court orders judge to reverse ruling in McManus death penalty case’ for more information.)

    Originally McManus claimed to be mentally retarded as a defense in his original trial, but people familiar with him claim differently.

    Having know his older brother Charlie(a.k.a. ‘Cheatin’ Charlie) I cannot help but speculate that the branches of the sibling tree did not grow far from one another.

    Charlie was, and probably still is, an unconscionable liar and cheat on public basketball courts who would make outrageous fouls to deliberately injure people and phony claims while playing against people much superior to him athletically. Eventually the person would retaliate and McManus would claim the person was being a big bully and have some of ignorant West Side buddies set up a gang assault on the individual where they would all simultaneously pummel him at the start of the game. This sometimes would occur months after the original altercation had occurred.

    If the person got the better of McManus and his friends, they could go to a certain retired cop that owned a weight lifting gym who would rule solely on the basis of their stories and use his influence almost as if he still worked for the EPD and have the individual harassed in various ways. This is as much a fabric of Evansville society as the Fall Festival and Mesker Park Zoo. No shortages of these kinds of ignoramus’s in Evansville, as these social networks make such miscarriages of justice possible. No wonder people are skeptical of the EPD.

    I can’t help but speculate that older brother Charlie, with his character-less A-hole personality, was somewhat of a role model for Paul, and that Paul’s claim of mental retardation is false.

    Incredibly, Charlie, works for the Evansville-Vanderburgh School corporation and is a softball referee. He owned the gun that Paul allegedly stole to commit the murders.

    I cannot help but think there exists the potential for a huge miscarriage of just in the name of the small children and female that was murdered, but after all, this is Evansville, and these things do happen from time to time.

    • I think you’re right, and I expect there will be a new trial. I can’t imagine they would turn that man loose, but he may wind up in a mental health facility, or even a group home, if he is set free.

    • Yes. It’s the police department’s fault. And you wrote more about the bully brother and rough fouls at a pick up basketball game than you did a child murderer. The first half of your post was informative. The second half of your post is…well, ridiculous.

      And if you don’t think someone on death row won’t try any and every excuse in the world to appeal, then you are crazier than you seem in your writing.

      • I have to agree that this was a bizarre post. I am concerned about what becomes of the murderer, but this guy seems a little obsessive about the brother of the murderer.

        • Obsessive or not, I think the brother and other info was worth mentioning, and everything I said was true.

          In fact, I could tell even more but I’ll let it go for now.

      • You just showed you irrationality by claiming I said ‘it was the police departments’ fault, which is not quite what I said.

        I think what Paul grew up to be was influenced by his brother Charlie.

        You have obviously concentrated on the parts of the post you wanted to & sound as if you think Paul is reasonable in his actions, which says a lot about YOUR craziness.

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        • Their father dabbled in burglary as well-hoop dee doo. This creep shot his own babies in the face, shot his poor wife-in their sleep, because she was struggling to make a safer life away from him. What could put a gun to a child’s face and pull the trigger?
          I want him off the face of the earth. I have no compassion for him.

      • You just showed you irrationality by claiming I said ‘it was all the police departments’ fault, which is not quite what I said. Let the chips fall where they may, what I said was true., not ridiculous.

        I think what Paul grew up to be was influenced by his brother Charlie, and that is worth mentioning.

        You have obviously concentrated on the parts of the post you wanted to & sound as if you think Paul is reasonable in his actions, which says a lot about YOUR craziness

  2. What surprises me is that they had no fire plan for the marina. The EFD used to have fire plans for large facilities an buildings. It would seem due to the nature of the facility at the marina the EFD would have one. These plans are developed before a fire an usually revised every couple years. I assume the casino boat has one. Could any of the EFD people who comment here enlighten me on this.

      • JIG if the access from or in KY then what the heck was EPD doing in KY arresting the owners? Only the South East part of the Marina are may be in KY. And a pre fire plan is a good tool for Professional Fire Departments to have in case of a real fire. Not having a plan seems unprepared and unprofessional? Well maybe so.

        • Actually the area of jurisdiction is potentially questionable depending on exactly where the arrests were made. Part of the Marina is in KY and the other part is in IN. And is there more than one way to reach the boats by land? IE more than one gangway from land to the boat docks?

          It’s been years since I visited that area of town but the overhead shows the Marina area and the State lines running right though the middle of the area.

  3. Editor: Please read yesterday’s IIT comments. Two of the people were outed on the Evansville Transparency Facebook Page by a guy named Brian E. Buxton. He gave up the names of two out of the three people. And they are friends of the Owner of the House boat that was burned, set ablaze, cut loose and allowed to drift aimlessly in the Harbor thus setting several r million dollars worth of other boats on fire.

    Brenda Harris of Hatfield, IN was said to have been cleaning the boat the night of the fire. She’s also said on her own facebook page that she helped drag a fire house and was injured (strained her back) while doing so and had to go home and soak in the bath tub with Epson salts. She claims on her FB page that she studied EMT at Ivy Tech and that she is a flight attendant. All this information was obtained from looking at her Facebook site. She claimed that one of the firemen asked her to help haul some firehouse to the fire and that when the fire house got stuck on something that he asked her to help get the hose lose. That’s when she stained her back.

    Ironically EFD Chief Mike Connelly was on TV yesterday and was quoted in the news papers saying that no one was injured at the fire. But Brenda said she was over come by smoke and she reportedly had to be treated for smoke inhalation. AMR was on scene and most likely treated her for the smoke inhalation by giving her some Oxygen and checking out her vital signs. She was released evidently and said she returned home and could not stay and watch Mr. Marve (Owner of the first house boat to catch on fire at the end of B dock) and his boat burn.

    • Maybe they mean the dirt bag cops and local dirt bag media haven’t released it just some friend of Winnecke on Facebook. The whole thing really stinks.

      • Yea it’s funny because Brian E. Buxton claimed on Evansville Transparency’s FB site that the media had released the names already a long time ago at the beginning of the fire story yet no one else could find any mention of the real names of the three people who were cleaning the house boat at midnight in Feb and knocked over a Kerosene Heater accidentally and admitted to starting the fire reportedly.

        Now Brian E. Buxton is upset with ET because they grabbed one of his PUBLIC FB photos showing a selfie of Brian driving the Mayor in a convertible at some Parade. Be careful what pictures you post on FB as you don’t know where they might end up being shown later on. :). But now Brian is asking that ET take down the picture and is claiming that the photo is his intellectual property and that they should removed his picture from the ET FB site. I guess Brian figured it was better for him to release the names. I wonder just how he knew who the three cleaning people were when no one else did.

        I posted some links to Brenda Harris’s FB page so people can read for themselves what she said about the fire that night. That might give people some insight into what happened on Friday the 13th and Saturday 14. Both nights fall on a Holiday Weekend. BTW if you research ARSON fires you might just find that a lot of them occur on holiday weekends. Just saying that because this fire seems od in many ways to me and many others.

        BTW: here is a link to a U Tube Video showing what a real fire boat looks like in action:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqDHTo-1f1A

        • He and another guy are obviously Winnecke’s online attack dogs. You know to whom I’m referring.

        • There are photos floating around of Mayor Winnecke, Missy Mosby and Jonathan Weaver hanging out with a convicted sex offender/pedophile. I have seen them and then went on the Vanderburgh County sex offender site and saw for myself that this individual was indeed a convicted sex offender. This shows the true character of these people and before this election is over I am sure the public will be more than aware of their after hour activities.

          • Public figures often get their pictures taken with total strangers, but it does seem odd that the same sex offender shows up in pics with these three particular public figures, who appear to know him well.

        • Hey! That’s the monkey boat up at what used to be our zoo. Somebody got a pretty good shot of it before they made the monkeys stop using it as a recreational pissing platform. The smart monkeys always staked out the stern positions.

          • The one in the back, Symeon ‘Long Stream’ Primateo, sold me a pair of shoes down on main street many years ago.

          • Yes, those monkeys at Baynham’s sold me a lot of shoes and clothes. I always wondered what they’d do if you told them “no”. I guess they’d pee on you.

      • I wonder what else the mayor and his lackey cops are planning to destroy? I’m sure the media will cover up whatever they do. It’s unbelieveable how crooked the local government really is. I feel like I’m living in Chicago in the 20s and 30s. Liars cheats and thieves. And those are the people who we pay to protect us.

        I’d like to see the telephone records between the mayor, chief BELLY bolin and efd chief Connelly the days prior to this incident at the marina.

        • I doubt they have any part in all this, but I expect the Mayor imagines the fallout from this will be serendipitous for him. My guess is that all the years of blathering from John Graybill may have inspired someone to what they believed would be a low profile case of arson. What nobody counted on was the loss of the Serenity, which kicked the insurance investigations up to the big leagues. I expect arrests in this case shortly after the houseboat is raised, although that may not be necessary, if they can get somebody to “talk.”
          This is just my conjecture, based on very little knowledge of anything except human nature and a love of mystery dinner theatres,but I expect this to get bigger before it goes away.

          • It is odd that Winnecke hasn’t made a public statement offering his condolences to the Riecken’s and boat owners like a politician with a modicum of class would have done by now.

          • Had the Rieckens announced of repairs, and that a job would be created.
            Winnecke would had already been all over this issue, and had already
            flipped some sand with a big announcement!

            Seriously, asking for a statement from Winnecke would just make this into
            a political football. Just my thought, a unusual pass by me for a
            action/non action by the city mayor.

        • Bryan, Take your findings to the prosecutor and he will file to get their records. It is easy to harass people.

    • Almost as good as what we get from the Lame Stream Media who just can’t stand it when Social Media scoops them and make them look bad. 🙂

      • Is someone getting testy? If anyone needs to shut up it’s you CO. I don’t represent anyone but myself. Your idiotic attempts to like people with other people is pathetic at best and humorous to most normal people. Have a nice day Casually Obstructing Betty! I’m sure you would want this discussion about what really happened at the fire to go away.

        BTW: Can you tell us if the EFD Fire Chief was ever at the fire scene that night or was he AWOL? Not much has been said about where he was that night. Surely he was on scene of this multi alarm fire and over seeing his firemen.

      • There is a world of difference in “accused” and “suspected”, Phoenix. I think EPD should have casually released the names of the friends Mr. Marver had hired to clean his boat, and moved on with their investigation, but they didn’t. It’s too late now, and I really don’t want this investigation to be blown. I doubt we’ll see anything done until the insurer of the Serenity gets into the act. If that beautiful, amazing boat had not been lost in the Valentine’s Day debacle, it would not be drawing so much attention. I expect insurance investigators already know what happened, but they will still need the evidence that is resting on the river floor to make the case.

      • Now way in HELL is the hard right Libertarian Ron Cosby going to take an ID/User name like Berkeley originated MoveOn. Clueless.

      • CAN WE GIVE EDITOR SOME CREDIT TODAY?

        1. At least Editor had some editorial/judicial discretion today and didn’t publish the names of people not charged with anything, and not related to the marina in any way. They were house boat cleaners, and what MoveOn calls the “lame stream media” today, includes the Editor of the CCO who showed integrity today by not publishing names he knew perfectly well.

        2. MOVEON on the other hand….is really showing how much of a low-life scumbag he really is. He actually believes he is doing journalism here…oft-repeated, and accurate…get a job MoveOn, you have delusions of grandeur. So much for his spouting his ideals for social justice, hell, justice of any kind. MoveOn is often accused by the Tea Party fanaticals here of being a lazy, misguided fool. He has proved them right today.

      • ELKAYBEE….what an extraordinary statement from you,

        “I think EPD should have casually released the names (of the boat cleaners)…..”

        Holy cow. You have validated and become what you so often accuse others of….so much for YOUR integrity LKB.

      • @Moveon:I don’t worry about the likes of him, Phyllip, or several other of the more extreme posters here, except sometimes to wonder if medication could help them.

      • Hey CO: Gail called and wanted to know if you want your integrity back. You left it at her Marina the other night. 🙂

      • ELKAYBEE…you’re embarrassed. I understand.

        You lack the courage and discipline to present your case, or to advocate your position, without losing your principles. Today is a classic case, you are wholly willing to exploit people losing site of the rights you day in and day out demand others need to consider. What you said today is NO different than “Throw the bastards to the curb!”

        LKB, you have validated accusations your are, in fact, no different of the horrible things you accuse others of here every day.

        Live with that.

      • It’s really odd that you’d say that. The local media reports the names of all sorts of accident victims all of the time, and most of them are not suspected of any wrongdoing, either. There’s crap here, but its being covered up for some reason, instead of being scooped.

      • That last post was meant for you CO/PD.
        Shem, we have something in common. Neither of us has any idea what you are blathering about.

      • Laura, you just love my name. I always laugh when you go on your conspiracy theories and start calling other posters by my name. Remember I always post with my name so you all know who is smacking you in the face with some good old-fashioned common sense. I don’t assume the identity of any of the nameless cowards on this site. I just let them play anonymous internet bully. If I have something to say to Ron or Joe, I address them directly. See my post two days ago for an example of that.

      • it means what ie means. Cowgirl. Did the media not tell who they were and where they not the one’s that were there when the fire started. Normally the local media is all over eye witnesses to such a thing as this huge fire in the Marina. How many times have we seen someone talking on camera after they helped rescue someone from a fire before the firemen got there. That happens all the time. Yet we have three people who according to Kim Garrett of the EFD are said to have been on the Marves house boat the night that the fire started and latter according to news reports were there and kicked over a kerosene heater which caused the fire to spread out of control. Sorry but that’s not conjecture those are the facts. In fact I was just reviewing what Kim was reported to have said to the Paper.

        These three people are key along with the evidence on the boat that can tell if their story is true or not. If no kerosene heater is found that could be big news.

        You seem to want to dismiss these three people and I wonder why? They are the only eye witnesses to the beginning of the fire and investigators will have to find out if they are telling the truth or not. So far the reported facts make this fire seem strange. Hopefully more information will be released by EFD or at trial. And there may well be a trail someday.

        In the mean time you can call me Al….
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq-gYOrU8bA&feature=player_embedded

        • Move, If i read the earlier reports the EFD people are meeting with the three this week. I’m sure they will issue a complete report when they have it. I know you were demanding all the answers the morning after the fire but you need to be patient. Who ever you report to or are gathering info for will have to wait also. One report said they wouldn’t be able to tell much until they raise the boat.

      • He seemed more upset with the EFD than anything else. He can collect insurance money off this deal and then use that money to help with finances or buy a new houseboat or what ever he wants to do. That is if the investigation doesn’t show that the fire was not accidental in nature. I’m better big time that the insurance company that insured the Serenity Boat will be in on this investigation like a tick on a dog. That boat was worth a lot of money from what I’ve read and seen of it.

    • I have no idea who Ron Cosby is, and frankly don’t give a damn…but I do find it very strange that his wife is sending facebook friend request to everybody in town. Myself, and several other friends have received friend requests from her, and none of us have an idea who the hell she is.

  4. Stolen equipment.

    Could the thieves of this equipment be using the same tactics that Wall Street, Corporate America in general use to (il)legally obtain wealth that us peasants are not privileged to?

    • The iit infers the union county crew knowingly bought stolen equipment across state lines. Perhaps in return for a favorable kick-back. I posted on the cp yesterday, in the mideast hands are chopped off to discourage repeat offenders.

      • The CCO did not say and does not believe that the UC officials knew the items were stolen when they entered into the transactions. What we wrote was that at this time that is not even being disputed.

  5. Ford Center

    In general, as far as entertainment gained was a larger venue for those that follow hockey!

    We heard of lack of equipment rafter support for all these groups that would not perform here
    because of that. Well we have it now, where are they? And what happens when those fathom
    bands play outdoor, do they hang their equipment on skyhooks? A temporary frame work in the
    stage area could had held anything they wanted suspended!

    In general, 125 million should had been applied to sewer upgrades, and for those elites wanting
    their sky boxes with wet bar, we should had that built overlooking the Eastside Wastewater
    Treatment Plant!

    • I predict the hockey will be gone within 5 years once the new car smell wears off. Then we’re stuck with a hockey rink that looks goofy set up for basketball.

      • They must have something going for that sport here, I was surprised it had last this long.
        May be that they have a base crowd that came up through Swonders hockey leagues?
        Louisville had brought a team into their city several years back which lasted only couple years.
        This is what I based my thoughts on the Ice mans.

        • I’m surprised that the Icemen are not playing very well. I thought that they would be winning more games by now.

          Hopefully the new coach will get the team going better and they will win more games and get into the play offs. Evidently they have an excellent goalie who was just called up to the NHL as an emergency backup goalie.

          Go Icemen!

      • That’s what you guys were saying 5 years ago, yet the Icemen continue to be in the upper 1/3 of ECHL attendance cities, despite sucking swamp water this year.

        Louisville didn’t support hockey because they have a damn good NCAA basketball team, we do not. Ft. Wayne has supported hockey for 60 years..no reason we can’t.

        Regardless of how you feel about the Ford Center, we are fortunate to have a high level minor league team here, and the additional entertainment it brings.

      • I thought that at first, but it looks like hockey may stick around. A lot of kids are playing now, and that gets interest going. If the Icemen start to win more, that would help with the draw, though.

  6. Inland Marina

    Even though it appears information is coming in slow, would we have this much CCO
    posting on this if this was a non-election year, and different owners of that business?

  7. Is it true that an appeals court has ordered that Paul McManus be released if prosecutors do not order a new trial date ?

    McManus was sentenced to death in 2002, after being convicted of fatally shooting his estranged wife, Melissa, 29, and their two children, Lindsey, 8, and Shelby, 23 months on Feb. 26, 2001. After doing so, he jumped off the US. 41 Evansville-Henderson twin bridges in an alleged attempt to commit suicide.

    The appeals court said McManus was not competent to stand trial due to medication he was given to combat panic attacks be began suffering from after the start of his trial. (Google ‘Appeals court orders judge to reverse ruling in McManus death penalty case’ for more information.)

    Originally McManus claimed to be mentally retarded as a defense in his original trial, but people familiar with him claim differently.

    Having know his older brother Charlie(a.k.a. ‘Cheatin’ Charlie) I cannot help but speculate that the branches of the sibling tree did not grow far from one another.

    Charlie was, and probably still is, an unconscionable liar and cheat on public basketball courts who would make outrageous fouls to deliberately injure people and phony claims while playing against people much superior to him athletically. Eventually the person would retaliate and McManus would claim the person was being a big bully and have some of ignorant West Side buddies set up a gang assault on the individual where they would all simultaneously pummel him at the start of the game. This sometimes would occur months after the original altercation had occurred.

    If the person got the better of McManus and his friends, they could go to a certain retired cop that owned a weight lifting gym who would rule solely on the basis of their stories and use his influence almost as if he still worked for the EPD and have the individual harassed in various ways. This is as much a fabric of Evansville society as the Fall Festival and Mesker Park Zoo. No shortages of these kinds of ignoramus’s in Evansville, as these social networks make such miscarriages of justice possible. No wonder people are skeptical of the EPD.

    I can’t help but speculate that older brother Charlie, with his character-less A-hole personality, was somewhat of a role model for Paul, and that Paul’s claim of mental retardation is false.

    Incredibly, Charlie, works for the Evansville-Vanderburgh School corporation and is a softball referee. He owned the gun that Paul allegedly stole to commit the murders.

    I cannot help but think there exists the potential for a huge miscarriage of just in the name of the small children and female that was murdered, but after all, this is Evansville, and these things do happen from time to time.

    • Not sure why someone would come on here and attack the brother of a man on death row. I have played ball with Charlie at various venues around town and sure some of the fouls were ticky tac but to go on here and claim that he put out a hit squad is ludacris.

      Also you talk about his softball refereeing….that would be softball umpiring not refereeing and Charlie currently does MVC, OVC, Big 12, Big 10, and SEC and one does not just “get” those gigs.

      So not sure of your pettiness but maybe you need to look in the mirror and evaluate yourself before you evaluate others.

      • Like hell it’s a lie.

        That gang attack occurred to someone McManus and his friends had not even seen or played ball with in 6 months. I’ll ‘attack’ Charlie because I think his shit attitude had an influence on what Paul grew up to be.

        Charlie is an outstanding D-head, like many of his ignorant friends who participated in that attack.

        That’s not pettiness. That’s something that deserves a comment.

        As for umpiring/referring, who gives a shit about the syntax.

        YRNFNLIR , not me.

        • In fact, prior to altercation, McManus got one of his larger friends to attempt strong arm robbery by trying to bully someone into paying him money.

          …and that is no lie.

          • Did you or someone got to the authorities with this claim or the others that you brought up? I am not saying this didn’t happen or if it did (you Scales of Injustice did) but you could be on the verge of slander. Just some food for thought since you have named specific names and specific incidents. Opinion is one thing but to be this specific can hinder on being slander.

            To be honest I have no dog in this fight but just seems weird that you brought these incidents up now.

          • I’ll reply to you post below YRFNLR, since the reply link to your comment is not appearing on my computer.

            Your username ‘FNLR’ suggested to me you believed what I said was not true, and it is. Part of the reason I mentioned it now was because of the appellate court’s recent decision coming out in the press. and also because I am familiar with his brother, who got away with the things I said that he an others did.

            WHAT I SAID IS NOT A LIE, IT IS THE TRUTH.

          • And yes, I do go to the police, even writing letters to them, but nothing was done.

  8. I would like to know why my post concerning an Evansville man who murdered his family and jumped off the Evansville-Henderson Twin bridges has not posted ?

    • Try checking your computer. And if you post and it looks like it didn’t go though just press F5 and then the IE back button and then F5 again. That might help you see your post. The CCO has been having a slight problem with posts in here. Other’s have noticed this too. It would not be the first time that a hacker has tried to interfere with the CCO’s operations. Some adversaries have been known to try to go after the advertiser and get them to stop buying ads in here. And one time the entire site was shut down for days due to a hack. Many old posts were lost forever during that attack. It’s just Evansville Politics as usually and some players don’t like being exposed for what the are. Come on in, take your shoes off and get comfortable. This place is a good place to learn what the local media does not tell us.

  9. There is no doubt the Arena was sold on false pretenses(being generous). We were told it would make a profit from day one(interest included), that modern acts needed the new infrastructure, and that we would get a new hotel, downtown revitalization etc.

    Nevertheless, I think we still needed a new arena, Roberts was old and outdated. Yes Roberts could have been used for trade shows and other events, but we badly needed a new arena. Plus it should have been built across the street(South) and the phantom hotel should have been where the arena is. Hindsight is 20/20.

    • From afar. As observed most of the time. Hindsight in your town usually involves some crony or his political shill slipping up to pick your pocket somehow.

    • I am not convinced we even needed an arena. Sure it’s nice, but arenas have been a losing endeavor for every middle town that has built one. Of course we are Evansville, so we take a losing proposition and build it in a dead zone, tear down the one that had some potential left, and store the seats in another one that has had its trust fund raided and been so neglected it is on the endangered species list with the McCurdy.

      We should erect a display in the Zoo featuring the amphitheater with a sign that reads “See the Endangered Rationabilis.”

      • +1 Just for rationale conversation vs name calling.

        I think we needed an arena and I don’t mind subsidizing it with tax dollars… up to a point.

  10. I think this whole “smoke on the water” issue shows how dissatisfied all of us are with the current status of our leadership. We are more intetive to conspiracy theories and kung-fu fighting than the loss for all.

  11. Riverfront Shem
    Feb 19, 2015 at 8:31 am

    CAN WE GIVE EDITOR SOME CREDIT TODAY?

    1. At least Editor had some editorial/judicial discretion today and didn’t publish the names of people not charged with anything, and not related to the marina in any way. They were house boat cleaners, and what MoveOn calls the “lame stream media” today, includes the Editor of the CCO who showed integrity today by not publishing names he knew perfectly well.

    2. MOVEON on the other hand….is really showing how much of a low-life scumbag he really is. He actually believes he is doing journalism here…oft-repeated, and accurate…get a job MoveOn, you have delusions of grandeur. So much for his spouting his ideals for social justice, hell, justice of any kind. MoveOn is often accused by the Tea Party fanaticals here of being a lazy, misguided fool. He has proved them right today.
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    “Low life scumbag” Wow. Did move on kill somebody? Rape? Beat his wife or kids?

    Try to proselytize a 1st grader into Christianity and then give them detention because they refused? Ban AP American History classes? Refuse to give medical treatment to a child of same sex couple? Was moveon a plaintiff in the Hobby Lobby case or the King/Burrell case? Did moveon fund phony global warming studies? Did moveon hand out campaign contributions on the House floor? Did moveon mock Newtown victims?
    Did moveone blame coal mine closings on Obama? Did moveon shut down the government? Did moveon tell people not to vaccinate their kids? Does moveon work for the tobacco companies? The gun lobby?
    Did moveon try to void an election? Did moveon call blacks lazy welfare queens dependent on government aid? Shall I keep going?

    • Shem is getting worse by the day. He’s reduced himself to name-calling, personal attacks. He and Phyllip are truly “birds of a feather.”

    • BRAINS BENTON:

      No actually. You don’t need to keep going.

      In fact, what you so eloquently presented here is:

      “YES, I agree. MOVEON is a scumbag. just not as big of a SCUMBAG as some others I know.”

      “But, he is a scumbag!”

      • ….mind you, I am harsh on the Tea Party types who Moveon quite frequently attacks with admittedly witless, dull-edged writing.

        But this guy, Moveon, is AMORAL. He has shown today he has no values, no principles. I won’t be seen sidling up to his kind of exploitation tactics. (And question how in the HELL you would consider it BrainsB.)

        • Maybe because of the way you are acting Shim. Talk about acting out of place. You take the cake here recently. If anyone is witless it’s you so look in the mirror and take a bow.

          Shem you are a disgrace! Nothing more than a thug.

  12. The present deal out from planet climate migration isn’t speeding up the investigations recovery efforts any, either. Oh, and do watch for the normal CSO sections to get swamped again this weekend.
    Rapid change, snow, ice, then plenty of rain on both . One form or the other the old downtown Evansville logistical infrastructure can do little to alleviate the sore thumb aspect the crumby old infrastructure sports on its population and revenue streams well being. That, for showing much standing valuation per its actual geophysical location. Its going to be a mess. The extreme low temperature of the water at the intakes, verses the rapid temperature swing deals a crushing blow to old patched and corroded water mains, woe.

    al·le·vi·ate
    əˈlēvēˌāt/Submit
    verb
    make (suffering, deficiency, or a problem) less severe.
    “he couldn’t prevent her pain, only alleviate it”
    synonyms: reduce, ease, relieve, take the edge off, deaden, dull, diminish, lessen, weaken, lighten, attenuate, mitigate, allay, assuage, palliate, damp, soothe, help, soften, temper

    “ice over the drain grates will not alleviate the swelling levels of slush and water and CSO in the streets”

    • But “V” whinny only cars about shiny new Arenas and Hotels on top of the crumbling sewers and busted water pipes. That stuff is dirt, best swept under the rug and ignored at all cost. The Civic Center would have to fall down from an earth quake before he would look at the ground beneath is feet. He don’t care about the Sewers. And he won’t care until they back up into his living room.

      But the EPA cares. Do you think it’s strange that the USEPA is calling this fire incident and it’s aftermath a “Criminal Investigation”. Why did the media report that but not get any comments about a criminal investigation from the local authorities? I find that odd.

  13. Obama now lectures us on the grievances of barbaric Islamic terrorists and suggests how to combat this evil…………yep, a jobs program. Maybe the Clueless-in-Chief will someday understand they already have a job, worldwide jihad. Unbelievable the damage Obama is doing to our national security.

    http://marketdailynews.com/2015/02/18/obama-is-clueless-when-it-comes-to-isis/

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-to-american-imams-be-less-boring-so-we-can-stop-youth-radicalization/

  14. Does anybody really buy the boat cleaning story? If this was some poor person’s shitty house in Jimtown it would just be boarded up and 7 years later get a raze order. This time some rich guy’s boat was destroyed. Somebody may actually try to get to the bottom of it. Get it? Check out the cleaners’ Facebook profiles. CLASSY

  15. Early this morning the C&P had a story about the Fire Chief defending the actions of EFD at the St. Valentine’s Day Debacle up, in front of the paywall. It has since been tucked safely behind the wall. The gist of the story was that the Chief wants everybody to “lay off” him and his men, that they did the best they could. I thought the story was more significant for what was NOT addressed. No mention was made of whether or not the Marver houseboat was cut loose by EFD personnel, nor was there any denial that Brenda Harris was told to drag hoses for the firefighters. I can understand not acknowledging Ms. Harris’s Facebook post under the circumstances, but if he could honestly deny that the EFD cut the Marver boat loose to drift into other boats, he should have done it.
    The end of the story does say that the Marina is being treated as a “crime scene”. Stay tuned, folks. I predict this is going to get very interesting.

    • elkaybee,

      I saw that Courier & Parakeet article as well. That bozo Chief Connelly is now claiming that BECAUSE his guys cut loose the burning boat, they saved the 41 other boats that were docked in the Marina ! Incredible claim by Chief Clownpaint, he even put a number on it: ” EFD saved $ 3.9 Million by our efforts”. Wow, tell that to the other boats which were destroyed, genius !

      • Rumor has it that the Chief and his little Indians save the Casino and the water treatment plant along with the rest of entire city and the State of IN. 🙂 What really was funny was the photograph of the reportedly Marina Fire Boat that the Media claimed was given to them by EFD. It looked like a old photo to me. I wonder where that picture was taken and if that’s really the Marina’s fire boat?

      • I noticed that, and have some doubts about how many boats were at the Marina this time of year. If the weather wasn’t so miserable, I’d go see what is there now.

    • Marina Point crime scene:

      I hear that EFD is bringing in the Indiana State Board of Accounts to audit the claimed savings by Chief Connelly. I anticipate a ‘Clean Opinion’ is forthcoming, and for the Boat Cleaners to be hired by the SBOA for future City of Evansville audits.

  16. I have heard through folks who keep their boats at the marina, that the house boat that caught fire was owned by bill marver.

    • I wonder when it will dawn on Winnie and his guys on EFD and EPD that the silence on the identities of the eyewitnesses and their versions of what happened has become deafening, and it is time to address this. The longer it goes, the worse it looks for the administration. If this hadn’t been handled so oddly in the media, I doubt anybody would be pointing any fingers the way of the Civic Center.

      • When they have people like Casually Obstructing in their corner telling them what they want to hear it’s not surprising that they don’t have a clue as to what’s going on in this town.

        Happy Birthday.

      • You’re right Elkaybee. The longer they wait to Identify the eye witnesses to this fire’s beginnings the worse it seems. Which is why the CCO editor today was calling for them to release the names of the three cleaning people as they are one of the king pins to the events that night.

  17. The story of the cleaning crew is suspect. For one, which has been mentioned over and over, is why in the middle of winter/ middle of night in freezing temperatures in Feb would they be cleaning a boat… Got it, weird.

    What gets me is their story about how it started. First they SMELLED SMOKE. Hmm, electrical fire? Smoke = possible fire, right? So they smelled smoke which made them get off the boat but in the process kick over a kerosene lame. Hmm.. which was it? Electrical fire or kerosene lamp fire? Both? What are the odds? Mid winter below freezing boat party with two causes of fire.. Sure.

  18. There is breaking news on the Courier site that Ed Parker missed his court appearance, but there is breaking news on CCO that the Courier is in error. Could this story get any stranger?

  19. Gruber opens his mouth and there is a shitstorm all over the “liberal media”. Brian Williams is caught in lies and he’s given 6 months suspension without pay. Sebelius messes up and the conners howl with fury.

    The republicans tell bald faced lies about the ACA for FIVE SOLID YEARS… What happen? The are rewarded with congressional majorities. Conners NEVER face the consequences for their lies.

    http://www.vox.com/2015/2/19/8069117/obamacare-critics-wrong

  20. I never realized it before but it’s now clear that most of the good that has come Evansville’s way in the past few years: the disasters that never happened, the Ace’s wins, the burgeoning downtown, the businesses that stayed, the non-conflagration at the Civic Center, the hookers from Milwaukee, the Haynie’s Renaissance, the Haney unmasking, the minimal turdage after it rains, ad infinitum, can all be attributed to Connelly and his men. Good job guys.

    • Wonder if Haney and crew have thought of a turbo fire boat yet? Super duper fire suppression………………. like what happened there.

      Actually what is and should be required at marinas anywhere, one of our EU people sported on our site today after a bit discussion of this garbage. Simple solution and quite cool. Each marina could have a separate little fire suppression unit. Works like any other system when someone pulls the alarm or actual slip fire is identified,the pump house on board the marina fires up a massive pumping system driven by an equal engine source for capacities in volume as required by Marina unit size. Comes on line just like a home generator, on demand. Sheds massive amounts of water on the slips indicating visual fire conditionals. One thing the source of the suppression medium which would be water, H2o you know is always close at hand in a marina.
      Simple science used with todays technical capabilities , but installed the insurance actualities might appreciate it on the costing. And one has an alternate solution to Marina coverage per municipal Fire departments. Gives the first responders a real time window to safely control the situation. Freebee’s are fun as well. Response with balance so too speak. Sometimes they actually might become solutions.

      Btw: How’s the building fire suppression equipment in the bat roost (McCrud’y ” )
      on the water front holding up under the present, however, expected, conditions ?

  21. The top question today is: Just where did Ben Kunkel borrowed the money to pay the $460.K back to the City of Evansville. It was stated today that Kunkel received a “Housing Project Loan (their caps, not mine) for $310.K, a 5 year loan with 2 years of no interest, and a $150 Exterior Improvement Loan (their caps, not mine).

    So who is offering these “loans”? Is it a good business practice to borrow money to make the payments on borrowed money? If it turns out that the funds are public money, and the taxpayers are taking it on the chin again, should the people involved in the loans be fired?

    Was ERC member Cheryl Musgrave right when she pointed out that businesses seeking loans from the city should be current on their property tax payments? You damn right she was!

  22. I think evansville would be much better off if all of you crazy bastards moved away. The whole political scene here is a joke . This town needs to be cleansed

  23. I see that the Schnuck’s market move to Washington Square mall is off, too. Joe Kiefer is “looking for another anchor” for the mall, yet again.

    • That was silly anyway. They were moving across the street from one old building to another older building? That never made any sense to me. We used to drive to that Schnucks to shop for groceries or drop in there to shop after the going to the movies on Friday nights.

      • The silly taxpayer funded EVSC abandoned a perfectly good Administration Building at the Civic Center Complex to move about 250 yards south to a Taj Mahal remodeled with a $6 million+ no bid contract. The taxpayer funded EVSC moved from one side of the Old Nationa Bank Events Plaza to the other side.

  24. IIT….That Tri-State Homepage has an article up about EFD employee Parker’s Court appearance which identifies Katherine Riecken-Parker as “THE OWNER” of Inland Marina Inc.?

  25. IIT…..That the Jan/Feb 2014 Issue of Evansville Living Magazine, in an article titled “High Falutin’ Boats”, identified Ron Riecken as the “owner of Inland Marina Inc.?

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